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I have the black diamond on my jl. Is it worth the 1700 to upgrade the fabric and windows to twill.
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I have the black diamond on my jl. Is it worth the 1700 to upgrade the fabric and windows to twill.
I donā€™t think so. Worth upgrading if ordering a new Jeep, absolutely. But if you got great deal on one with the standard top like I did. I wouldnā€™t upgrade immediately, only after the standard top needs replacement.
 

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I agree. I order the premium top on my builds. But if had the standard i wouldnā€™t bother upgrading.
 

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What everyone else said. If you were gonna upgrade, wait until your current material and windows are worn out. Also gotta consider if you ever want half doors that you'll probably want the uppers to match the material too
 

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There is a significant difference in the twoā€”sound, quality, internal climate control, and durability. If I bought off the lot and it had the black diamond top I would run it until it died unless I could sell it fast before I upgraded. If I ordered from the factory I would always go premium twill. Does anyone know if the hardware for both tops is all the same? Can the fabric parts be changed out if a top wears out? Iā€™m sure those questions have been asked before and probably answered.
 

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There is a significant difference in the twoā€”sound, quality, internal climate control, and durability. If I bought off the lot and it had the black diamond top I would run it until it died unless I could sell it fast before I upgraded. If I ordered from the factory I would always go premium twill. Does anyone know if the hardware for both tops is all the same? Can the fabric parts be changed out if a top wears out? Iā€™m sure those questions have been asked before and probably answered.
Itā€™s the same hardware, however the windows and fabric are different. It costs about 1700 to purchase new windows and fabric to go from black diamond to twill
 

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Itā€™s the same hardware, however the windows and fabric are different. It costs about 1700 to purchase new windows and fabric to go from black diamond to twill
I would imagine a new top comes with hardware at that price. At least, I would hope.
 

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I would imagine a new top comes with hardware at that price. At least, I would hope.
It does.

Itā€™s the same hardware, however the windows and fabric are different. It costs about 1700 to purchase new windows and fabric to go from black diamond to twill
I have seen the windows out there, but never the top fabric for sale or a how to on replacing it.
 
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It does.


I have seen the windows out there, but never the top fabric for sale or a how to on replacing it.
New tops the cheapest I can find is 2200
 

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I have seen the windows out there, but never the top fabric for sale or a how to on replacing it.
Mopar has just the top deck and windows available as replacements ; I saw these listed in the Quadratec site.
If the hardware is the same, this would be a much less expensive way to go to Twill, once the vinyl one wears out.
You will have to remove the old top from the framework, and then install the new fabric, similar to replacing a TJ or JK top skin
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