Adding Rigid LED's to JL Aux switch panel

[Trek54]

I tried to add a double LED light set (taken off my 2016 jeep) to my Aux switch #1. This rigid light kit ends with a Negative and positive terminal. Another 3 wires go to a rocker switch if needed (black, red, and blue). Which I dont need since I have the Aux switches now in my new JL jeep. I first hooked up the red and black wires to (ground and aux switch wire #1). I left the three rocker switch wires alone. Of course the lights didnt work. Then I tried to hook the three wires that would normally go to a rocker switch to Red to Pos and black to ground, blue to nothing. Again lights didnt work...... I dont like to experiment with voltage as this is a new vehicle. But I cant account what to do the the 3 rocker switch wires. Does anyone know how to wire this correctly ? Iam not very good with this and dont want to damage something. Appreciate any help with someone smarter than me!

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[Rhinebeck01]

I tried to add a double LED light set (taken off my 2016 jeep) to my Aux switch #1. This rigid light kit ends with a Negative and positive terminal. Another 3 wires go to a rocker switch if needed (black, red, and blue). Which I dont need since I have the Aux switches now in my new JL jeep. I first hooked up the red and black wires to (ground and aux switch wire #1). I left the three rocker switch wires alone. Of course the lights didnt work. Then I tried to hook the three wires that would normally go to a rocker switch to Red to Pos and black to ground, blue to nothing. Again lights didnt work...... I dont like to experiment with voltage as this is a new vehicle. But I cant account what to do the the 3 rocker switch wires. Does anyone know how to wire this correctly ? Iam not very good with this and dont want to damage something. Appreciate any help with someone smarter than me!

You cut away the rocker switch, so all you have left is the wire that goes to the Aux switch and the wire that goes to ground point.

For a decent ground that is readily available and you do not have to clean paint off of and will not snap off when you go to use, use the one in the pic below..

 

[mrtm1970]

What @Rhinebeck01 said ?

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Trek54

Just noticed you said you were going to use Aux 1 which is fused at 40 amp.. If you do use Aux 1 then do keep in play that inline fuse that is part of that harness, so you have appropriate fuse protection for your Rigid's.

You might consider using Aux 3 or 4 that are both fuse protected at 15 amp. Use Aux 3 or 4 and then don't bother keeping the fuse holder/fuse in the mix that came with the Rigid harness.

Consider keeping and using Aux 1 and 2 that are fused at 40 amp for higher draw goodies you may want to install in the future.

#5 and #6 in the pic are only found in the aux wire bundle you find in the passenger footwell..

 

[Trek54]

@Trek54

Just noticed you said you were going to use Aux 1 which is fused at 40 amp.. If you do use Aux 1 then do keep in play that inline fuse that is part of that harness, so you have appropriate fuse protection for your Rigid's.

You might consider using Aux 3 or 4 that are both fuse protected at 15 amp. Use Aux 3 or 4 and then don't bother keeping the fuse holder/fuse in the mix that came with the Rigid harness.

Consider keeping and using Aux 1 and 2 that are fused at 40 amp for higher draw goodies you may want to install in the future.

#5 and #6 in the pic are only found in the aux wire bundle you find in the passenger footwell..

Thanks for that reminder. I read that somehwhere but when I look at the wires #1 and #2 dont look any bigger than #3 and 4. May I cant tell the dif. I didnt finish connecting anything yet because I cant figure out why the lights dont work with the Aux switch. Thanks.

 

[Trek54]

You cut away the rocker switch, so all you have left is the wire that goes to the Aux switch and the wire that goes to ground point.

For a decent ground that is readily available and you do not have to clean paint off of and will not snap off when you go to use, use the one in the pic below..

The wires that plugged into the rocker switch (three total) also come out of a relay. How does that affect the lights not being used now? I would think somehow that circuit needs to be complete in order for the lights to work.

 

[Caliguy]

Weird that when you connected positive to Aux 1 and negative to ground it did not work.

In that configuration you have two switches. The Jeep switch bank, and the wires rocker switch, both must be on the on position to work and should have worked.

So let’s test, connect positive and negative direct to battery, flip rocker switch.. light should come on. If not you have defective lights.

If light comes on, then you messed up somewhere when trying to attach to your Aux switch. Most wire bundles have a portion of it where they all meet. Typically where the light wires fork into the 3 switch wires and fork again to the positive and negative.

Most of the time you can cut the wire before it forks out leaving you with a positive and negative direct to the lights. You should be able to connect the positive to Aux 1 and the negative to ground and it should work

 

[Trek54]

Its hard to describe on email...... Let me try..... From the rocker switch (which I unplugged and is off the wire now) there are 3 wires Red, black, and blue. Those wires are comming out of the relay part of the harness (drivers side) . On the other side (battery side) of the wire harness there is a red and black wire (that I orginally had on my battery). Being simple minded I cant help but think the lights dont work have something to do with the rocker switch wires not being connected correctly even the middle blue wire........ I would rather do this myself because I really like to run wires myself where I want them as well as the do the connections myself. Thanks again...

 

[Yogi]

I am assuming it is an entire harness that has the rocker switch circuit incorporated into the harness, correct?
If so, your answer is simply this ... the main red wire attaches to your Aux #3 or Aux #4 switch wire and the black to ground.
Of the three rocker switch wires you have, connect the red and blue together, and connect the black to ground.
Your earlier assumption that you needed to complete a circuit somewhere lead me to believe you have an incorporated harness, and you are correct that you need to complete the circuit ... toggle the rocker switch in a permanent manner so-to-speak.
(The red and blue wires are the same power line for the lights except the colours denote which side of the switched circuit they go on.)
I hope that all made sense

 

[Trek54]

@Trek54

Just noticed you said you were going to use Aux 1 which is fused at 40 amp.. If you do use Aux 1 then do keep in play that inline fuse that is part of that harness, so you have appropriate fuse protection for your Rigid's.

You might consider using Aux 3 or 4 that are both fuse protected at 15 amp. Use Aux 3 or 4 and then don't bother keeping the fuse holder/fuse in the mix that came with the Rigid harness.

Consider keeping and using Aux 1 and 2 that are fused at 40 amp for higher draw goodies you may want to install in the future.

#5 and #6 in the pic are only found in the aux wire bundle you find in the passenger footwell..

I used the third wire. works fine. thanks to much.

 

[Trek54]

Thanks for that reminder. I read that somehwhere but when I look at the wires #1 and #2 dont look any bigger than #3 and 4. May I cant tell the dif. I didnt finish connecting anything yet because I cant figure out why the lights dont work with the Aux switch. Thanks.

What would be any examples of extras one would add that you would want to use the 40 AMp fuse in line 1 or 2. thanks.

 

[Trek54]

@Trek54

Just noticed you said you were going to use Aux 1 which is fused at 40 amp.. If you do use Aux 1 then do keep in play that inline fuse that is part of that harness, so you have appropriate fuse protection for your Rigid's.

You might consider using Aux 3 or 4 that are both fuse protected at 15 amp. Use Aux 3 or 4 and then don't bother keeping the fuse holder/fuse in the mix that came with the Rigid harness.

Consider keeping and using Aux 1 and 2 that are fused at 40 amp for higher draw goodies you may want to install in the future.

#5 and #6 in the pic are only found in the aux wire bundle you find in the passenger footwell..

Sir, its been a while from the above information, appreciated your help. Now another problem related to this aux panel switches. I used only 2 of them last year. two sets of LED lights.
I used switch aux # 2 and aux #4. The Aux 2 has for a long time not come on (no panel light to indicate its on). Yet pushing it a second or third time then it would light up. The Aux 4 never has done that, ever. Recently the switch LED would even flicker and when checking the FOG lights they even flickered. So I finally took it to the dealer the other day. (I have always thought the problem was in the switch panel itself) . The dealer told me that my main battery was nearly dead, and thus creating the problem with the switch. They said it was because I didnt drive my jeep on enough trips. relating the problem to the run stop battery. No matter what is going on with the battery's my Aux 4 still worked fine always powering the LED's on my pillars. All the dealer did was charge the battery and tell my to use a trickle charger. None of this make any logic. Does any of this make sense? What should I do? I didnt buy and electric car to have to leave plugged in daily. Plus nothing has ever affected Aux 4 switch. Do I go to the manager of the dealership? They didnt even give me a new battery. I have about 1.5 yrs on the factory warranty left now. Thanks for any help, Gary

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Trek54

When you drove off from the dealership after that Service Dept. visit, was all working properly at that time?

Since under warranty...
Stop by the dealership ....... ask to talk to the Service Manager... again talk to the Service Manager and not the Service Writer.

Politely ask .... again, ask very politely and mention you are very concerned.... and that he/she have the Tech, properly load test each of your batteries and to provide you with a printout of each of the 2 load tests.

IF either battery fails the load test, then indeed you have an iffy battery or iffy 2 batteries and you can get the dealer to replace while still under warranty.

The load testing takes a couple of hrs. of shop time, so very often they will not do proper load testing, but say they did or not even mention load testing to you.

IF you do not see the load tests printouts you cannot be sure they actually did do load testing..

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[Trek54]

@Trek54

When you drove off from the dealership after that Service Dept. visit, was all working properly at that time?

Since under warranty...
Stop by the dealership ....... ask to talk to the Service Manager... again talk to the Service Manager and not the Service Writer.

Politely ask .... again, ask very politely and mention you are very concerned.... and that he/she have the Tech, properly load test each of your batteries and to provide you with a printout of each of the 2 load tests.

IF either battery fails the load test, then indeed you have an iffy battery or iffy 2 batteries and you can get the dealer to replace while still under warranty.

The load testing takes a couple of hrs. of shop time, so very often they will not do proper load testing, but say they did or not even mention load testing to you.

IF you do not see the load tests printouts you cannot be sure they actually did do load testing..

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Yes the lights worked, but they had just charged the battery to full (the writer tole me they did)
I only talked to the writer. It may be the battery or both batteries. I still wonder if the switch is bad since the #4 switch or lights have never done it flickered or the aux panel LED not comming on. What I will do is run the Jeep with the Air on and then later try the light or let it sit a few days.
What I didnt like was the suggestion from the writer that I should put a trickle charger on it every night. If I were to want that I would buy an electric car! Thanks for your help, Hope they dont kick me out. Gary

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