3.6 not going away?

[PavementWarrior]

Thought for sure the 2.0 would take out the 3.6 on the wranglers and possibly see the hurricane but this makes me wonder.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...boost-with-247-million-investment-192769.html

high compression engines fail, the little one is absurd, the new 3.6 in JL is too much.. pings all summer on CA hippie gas

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[DanW]

high compression engines fail, the little one is absurd, the new 3.6 in JL is too much.. pings all summer on CA hippie gas

Runs fine here in God's country.

 

[DanFelix]

The reason the 2.0 or another engine has not knocked out the 3.6 is due to simple economics. The 3.6, not being direct injected or turbocharged, is less expensive to build or repair. It also has one of, if not THE, lowest warranty claim costs of any mass produced engine. In that regard, it is the envy of the auto industry. That's why they continue to invest in it and it isn't going away soon.

Ask Ford about warranty costs on their DI/turbo engines. (Not saying they aren't reliable. They are. But they are EXPENSIVE to repair and replace.) In a recent year their warranty costs for engines were $1 billion greater than that of rival General Motors. It became a top corporate priority to reduce it.

A local oil change shop had to replace the Ecoboost in my Ford Transit about 4 years ago after screwing up the filter installation causing its destruction. It cost them $11,000 for a Ford certified remanufactured unit. OUCH!!!

"The 3.6, not being direct injected..."

What other kinds of 'injected' are there? Did not know there were different fuel injection schemes. Thanks.

 

[AcesandEights]

No way. Look at raw materials for batteries. Not nearly enough to support replacement of ICE engines.

The ICE engine will live on for a long time, especially when it transitions to hydrogen fuel.

The European Union has a ban on new ICE sales starting 2035; California's ban starts in 2035. So, there will be something happening. I'm guessing when we switch to the metric system we'll be able to measure the amount of raw materials more accurately and there will be plenty.

 

[Deleted member 59498]

"The 3.6, not being direct injected..."

What other kinds of 'injected' are there? Did not know there were different fuel injection schemes. Thanks.

Port injection I think it is called. Indirect maybe

 

[AcesandEights]

"The 3.6, not being direct injected..."

What other kinds of 'injected' are there? Did not know there were different fuel injection schemes. Thanks.

Single, Port, Direct, Sequential

 

[Nailgun]

First, if you read my post, I said IMO…I didn’t say it was fact. So now to your question. The factory has two engines, they each have there pros and cons. But they serve the purpose, and in away are competition to one another. The Gladiator doesn’t offer the 2.0. Plus now the factory is ramping up the build on the 3.6. So what is the advantage of offering two competitive engines, that are somewhat comparable?

Diversity is a key strength at Jeep having two gas powered mills despite the near identical capabilities (2.0 and 3.6). Each has a buyer that won't buy the other engine....so a sale could be lost. So really they compliment one another. What I think you will see is the niche 3.0L Ecodiesel go away when the Hurricane gets up to speed. Locally, all the remaining 2021 Jeep JL's unsold are 3.0L Ecodiesel's and 6 speed Sahara's. My 2 cent's.

 

[AlgUSF]

"The 3.6, not being direct injected..."

What other kinds of 'injected' are there? Did not know there were different fuel injection schemes. Thanks.

Well there is:
TBI: Throttle Body Injection
MPFI: Multi-point Fuel Injection
DI: Direct Injection

These are the schemes I know of from basic to complex.

Staying on-topic, I love my 3.6 even with it's timid programming. I figure when it is out of warranty I'll get a proper tune for it. Jeep has to do specific adjustments to keep permission from the Federal Government to make these great vehicles. I can't blame them because if they didn't play ball, we wouldn't be talking about a 2023 Wrangler.

 

[DanW]

Well there is:
TBI: Throttle Body Injection
MPFI: Multi-point Fuel Injection
DI: Direct Injection

These are the schemes I know of from basic to complex.

Also tuned port injection.

 

[AlgUSF]

Also tuned port injection.

LOL! I remember the first time I saw a common fuel rail on my Civic with one injector per cylinder. I came from my S-10 which had two injectors spraying down into the throttle body, one injector per 3 cylinders.

 

[No IFS]

I’m sure the 3.6 supercharger manufacturers are happy they put a lot of money in R&D. love my 3.6. test drove them all. Other than the 392 this is my favorite powertrain. 3.6 automatic

 

[No IFS]

First, if you read my post, I said IMO…I didn’t say it was fact. So now to your question. The factory has two engines, they each have there pros and cons. But they serve the purpose, and in away are competition to one another. The Gladiator doesn’t offer the 2.0. Plus now the factory is ramping up the build on the 3.6. So what is the advantage of offering two competitive engines, that are somewhat comparable?

I agree they will keep the V-6 around for the people who want a gas Jeep they can use it in both the gladiator and the wrangler JL it’s in the max tow package gladiator. The gas only 2.0 will be dropped in favor of the hybrid electric version. You will still have choices: full electric, hybrid electric ,and all gas V6. Just my opinion.

 

[LooselyHeldPlans]

I would bet that 2027 or 28 will be the last year any ICE engine is available in a Jeep.

Did you read the article? 50% by 2030.

 

[Canucklesammich]

high compression engines fail, the little one is absurd, the new 3.6 in JL is too much.. pings all summer on CA hippie gas

You might need to switch to a name-brand fuel; mine runs plenty strong & absolutely no pinging.

 

[unsavory]

You might need to switch to a name-brand fuel; mine runs plenty strong & absolutely no pinging.

There are tolerances in manufacturing. Some ping, some don't. Mine would ping constantly on 87. Had to run 91 to prevent it.

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