2026 4xe getting new electrified transmission?

[Ron Texas]

Reports are the 2026 4xe will get a new electrified transmission with over 200 hp, 31 mile range and other technical refinements for reliability and drivability. No other details are available such as battery size, whether the 12v starter will be retained or a 48v generator/motor on the engine.

Any thoughts/comments

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[alphawolff]

With the current status of our EV/PHEV products I can almost certainly confirm this is not happening. We are fully divesting from BEV/PHEV products until at least the end of this administration cycle. They don't sell and are burning money pits in warranty repairs. Anything that was far enough along development wise will still probably get released (like the new cherokee which is just a wagoneer s with 40k chopped off the price tag).

They were supposedly working on the next generation 4XE platform (For 2026/2028) under CT, but I doubt it'll be released anytime soon.

 

[Ron Texas]

@alphawolff willl the 4xe be discontinued soon? Do you see a HEV in the near future? The mention of an HEV wrangler draws boo's around here, but Toyota/Lexus can't make enough of them.

 

[Tr4ckD4ys]

Just put the HEMIs already in the Wranglers and sell the cr** out of them in the US.

and the hurricane i6. I like that engine.

 

[alphawolff]

@alphawolff willl the 4xe be discontinued soon? Do you see a HEV in the near future? The mention of an HEV wrangler draws boo's around here, but Toyota/Lexus can't make enough of them.

No, I think the platform will continue for awhile. They sell well despite the many issues.

The problem with Toyota is they don't actually let dealers order vehicles. They build whatever they want and ship them out. This leads to some models just always being scarce.

 

[Ron Texas]

No, I think the platform will continue for awhile. They sell well despite the many issues.

The problem with Toyota is they don't actually let dealers order vehicles. They build whatever they want and ship them out. This leads to some models just always being scarce.

Around here many Toyotas have a long list of port installed options. These items are high margin junk and include shams like "protection" packages.

 

[Universe93B]

I had this same question as I was trying to decide between a 3.6 vs 4xe. I see quite a bit of 4xe's around, but I don't know if that's due to the heavy discounts. Even the 3.6s have large discounts currently.

I know, we don't have a crystal ball to see if I should wait for a 2026 4xe or just make a decision now. Toyota usually does the right thing and their bet on hybrids is working out. No full EVs. Not sure how a PHEV falls in there with sales, reliability and ease of repair.

 

[Ron Texas]

I had this same question as I was trying to decide between a 3.6 vs 4xe. I see quite a bit of 4xe's around, but I don't know if that's due to the heavy discounts. Even the 3.6s have large discounts currently.

I know, we don't have a crystal ball to see if I should wait for a 2026 4xe or just make a decision now. Toyota usually does the right thing and their bet on hybrids is working out. No full EVs. Not sure how a PHEV falls in there with sales, reliability and ease of repair.

If it will help you to make up your mind, the 4xe has much worse depreciation than a 3.6 or 2.0. You can compare lease rates or look at Edmunds total cost of ownership. Locally, there is a $71k Rubicon X offered new for $60k. That's wild. Other rumors for the 2026 Wrangler include improved highway steering feel and less cabin noise. Those are in the category of I will believe it when I see it.

Toyota is bringing several BEV's to market soon. However, the popular RAV4 will be HEV only, no plug. I'm not a fan of PHEV's due to their very short electric range and terrible depreciation.

Car and Driver did an off road test of the new 4Runner with and without hybrid assist. Their opinion was it was more manageable off road without the hybrid components.

 

[Universe93B]

If it will help you to make up your mind, the 4xe has much worse depreciation than a 3.6 or 2.0. You can compare lease rates or look at Edmunds total cost of ownership. Locally, there is a $71k Rubicon X offered new for $60k. That's wild. Other rumors for the 2026 Wrangler include improved highway steering feel and less cabin noise. Those are in the category of I will believe it when I see it.

Toyota is bringing several BEV's to market soon. However, the popular RAV4 will be HEV only, no plug. I'm not a fan of PHEV's due to their very short electric range and terrible depreciation.

Car and Driver did an off road test of the new 4Runner with and without hybrid assist. Their opinion was it was more manageable off road without the hybrid components.

Are you talking about the 2026 Wrangler as a minor update? I read the next generation doesn't arrive until much later. What did they say would improve the steering feel - I'm guessing they are talking about on the highway.

 

[TravelerTheJLU]

I'd be shocked if any changes come for 26 apart from minor things like maybe sound deadening or "bug" tweaks. The JM is expected to release in 27 and available in late 27/most likely 28. There is no way a company thats not doing great is going to focus development on a "old" car thats not doing great with the new version right around the corner. I will say though with the new CEO who knows what will happen. R and D for a new trans would take a while meaning it probably started 2+ years ago under a Stellantis CEO that did not value the Jeep brand, and wanted cost cutting, that is almost the exact opposite of what would be needed to create a new transmission.

 

[Skeethree]

If it will help you to make up your mind, the 4xe has much worse depreciation than a 3.6 or 2.0. You can compare lease rates or look at Edmunds total cost of ownership. Locally, there is a $71k Rubicon X offered new for $60k. That's wild. Other rumors for the 2026 Wrangler include improved highway steering feel and less cabin noise. Those are in the category of I will believe it when I see it.

Toyota is bringing several BEV's to market soon. However, the popular RAV4 will be HEV only, no plug. I'm not a fan of PHEV's due to their very short electric range and terrible depreciation.

Car and Driver did an off road test of the new 4Runner with and without hybrid assist. Their opinion was it was more manageable off road without the hybrid components.

I have a RAV4 plug-in, and Toyota has already announced that this will be available for 2026, with about 50 miles range vs 42 current. All RAVs will be hybrid, with plug-in available on most models. I've also owned a couple of 4xe's and experienced no worse depreciation than I have with gas only Wranglers. Compare depreciation to purchase price, not list price and the numbers are almost the same.

 

[BXFXJeep]

I have a RAV4 plug-in, and Toyota has already announced that this will be available for 2026, with about 50 miles range vs 42 current. All RAVs will be hybrid, with plug-in available on most models. I've also owned a couple of 4xe's and experienced no worse depreciation than I have with gas only Wranglers. Compare depreciation to purchase price, not list price and the numbers are almost the same.

And this is exactly what a lot of people crying about 4xe depreciation are doing, they are expecting a resale value on the $60K MSRP, not the $40K purchase price that has the government subsidies and manufacturer incentives etc.

The ones mostly crying are the cheap leases coming to an end, or the ones trying to flip a vehicle after a year or two.

Pro tip, no one is going to pay people to keep that $7,500 government grease, that money stays with the vehicle.

People were leasing the 2021/2021 Rubicons etc for $400 a month, now the lease is over they can't sell the Wrangler and pocket the difference, and today a new Rubicon 4xe lease isn't $400....the other option is to get a Charger EV SP, no one is buying them, and they are being leased for a lot under $400.

At the end of the day depreciation only matters to people that have over bought.

It's a Wrangler buy it, and keep it a long time, drive it into the ground like the old days. JLs come chock-full of creature comforts, there really is no need to flip a 2018+ JL.

 

[Ron Texas]

I'd be shocked if any changes come for 26 apart from minor things like maybe sound deadening or "bug" tweaks. The JM is expected to release in 27 and available in late 27/most likely 28. There is no way a company thats not doing great is going to focus development on a "old" car thats not doing great with the new version right around the corner. I will say though with the new CEO who knows what will happen. R and D for a new trans would take a while meaning it probably started 2+ years ago under a Stellantis CEO that did not value the Jeep brand, and wanted cost cutting, that is almost the exact opposite of what would be needed to create a new transmission.

The new transmission, if it happens, is an off the shelf item from a supplier.

 

[FL4Xe]

The new transmission, if it happens, is an off the shelf item from a supplier.

It’s the 8HP80PH vs the current 8HP75PH by ZF

 

[dbp512]

Wasn't the gladiator supposed to be released with the 4xe drivetrain? I thought they said it would be available on the '25 models, but that still hasn't happened yet.

Do you think they delayed it in order to release it with the larger battery & more powerful trans? Or is that a sign that they're trying to pivot away from their hybrids?

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