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" I guess you didn't know what you were getting into when you bought it. " No I did (not even my first Jeep), but my life changed a lot after I got it. I went from just a lot of local driving to longer road trips. Even drove the jeep to NY and back (3,000 miles). Did fine but now want to do...

Sold the Jeep privately, dealer offered 30k, so with sales tac credit that's = to $31,950. Sold privately for a lot more. I=Ridgeline and Maverick look like trucks, one reason I liked the Santa CRuz is that it doesn't, and in a sea of SUVs it looks different. Jeep was fun but way too noisy...

"Upon further reflection please sell your 4xe at a massive loss and trade it for a Hyundai. The collective owner IQ of both groups will increase." Wow. Well I may have a lower IQ than the you, I certainly was raised better. No I did not pay msrp. Yes I still drive and garage my Jeep...

So I am thinking of getting something else (Santa Cruz) and here is the values I am getting for my 2023 Sahara (power top, cold weather pack, 66k MSRP): Hyundi Dealer: 30k Autonation: 32k Private offers (31, 30.5 and 34k) Carvana $32,800 Carmax range $31-40k Edmunds Trade In 33,721. Discuss.

I test drove a 3.6 gladiator and thought it was pretty weak. I then drove the 4XE and it feels far more powerful. Ended up with a CPO 2023 Sahara. Have driven 16k miles so far without incident. Even did a 3k mile Florida to NY and back trip. Got 18mpg at 80-85mph.

Won't that drain the battery?

That video starts with the speakers obvious anti-ev bias. Its like gas engines have never caught on fire ir failed, etc. Yes this is an issue but its not an ev issue per se, its a design flaw.

Glad to hear that.

"Unless you plug it in, the battery is always doing nothing but weighing you down." Not true at all, it adds 175 extra foot pounds of torque and 105 more horsepower. I drove a 3.6 and the 4XE and the 4XE has way more power. Worth it too me and the free 20 miles is icing (if it wasn't recalled...

As of October 1, 2024, Jeep has recalled over 194,000 plug-in hybrid vehicles due to a fire risk, and the company has reported 13 fires: Number of fires: 13 fires have been reported in parked vehicles Number of vehicles recalled: 154,000 in the U.S., 14,000 in Canada, 700 in Mexico, and...

13 fires is a small number, plus we do not know how many fires were caused by things like wet chargers, bad cables, crooked install, bad level 2 systems (overloads) or other issues.

Once I was recalled my plan was to discharge completely and not recharge but stil store in Garage. However, with real risk being small, I did charge up again for the pending Hurricane Milton, may need the extra battery power. Once that passes I will discharge and stop charging, haven't decided...

Did you charge them at all or leave depleted?

Just found out my 12/3/22 Build 4xe is under recall. Says repair parts are not available. What are owners doing? Stop Charging? Leave outside? Run down charge and still park inside? How big is risk? "A routine data review revealed 13 reported fires, and Jeep estimates that 5% of affected...

In my state, the windshield is a no deductible insurance covered item.

Jeep shows the 2024 towing an airstream in its ads, and I see that a 16' Airstream Bambi has a front towing area of about 69 sq. feet, which exceeds the 40 foot limit unless you can subtract the JL's frontal area.

Why is it mediocre? "According to a December 2023 survey, the average American car commute is about 12 miles." So you can likely commute to work at low electric only cost? "...ridiculously low ranges coupled with a gas engine that doesn’t even recharge the battery." It can charge the...

Secondary issue is frontal area. Most RV Trailers exceed the 40 sq. ft. in dimension IF you calculate the raw number (HXW). However, I have read many say that the frontal area is the RV number less the frontal area of the tow vehicle ( the total area in. square feet that a. moving vehicle and...

Because the chart says so,, Maximum GTW is 5,000 lbs for 2.0L Rubicon and 3.6l Rubicon:

No look at the next chart, which shows both the 2.0 and 3.6 support 5,000 lbs. The 4 link is (which has been changed to a 1: