Jeep humor waiting room ( ** NO POLITICS ** )

[Sean L]

So OB and Mark are still alive.

Anyone seen Chris yet?
That twin bed eat him?

sleeping late?

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[J.R. Quimby]

Good morning Jeeples, Im in do nothing mode today and its raining.

 

[Sean L]

Good morning Jeeples, Im in do nothing mode today and its raining.

I feel the same way... no rain here though.

 

[CrazyKASG]

I live in a "Non Union" state, and while I don't have issue with workers organizing with each other, I do take issue with a REQUIREMENT to be union by an outside entity that will then just siphon money out of your paycheck. I believe the UAW (sky-high minimum wage) is a major reason the overhead was so high on small and midsize cars that Ford and FCA just can't sell them and make any money at all without skyrocketing the price of a Dodge Dart to that of a Charger...

Union membership is optional here, but since employers here go out of their way to make conditions good for the employee, very few choose to do so. Unions can be good, but if they get too big their detriments can outweigh the benefits.

Oh boy... Union debate about to begin...
Better invite @ResponsibleAdult

I will say that the miners up here truly needed the unions during the early days. The working conditions were so poor and unfair that many lives were lost.

This kids/young adult book has a great historical view of it. It’s an interesting quick read if you can find a copy.
“My Name Is America: The Journal Of Otto Peltonen, A Finnish Immigrant”

 

[CrazyKASG]

sleeping late?

Could be.

 

[CrazyKASG]

Good morning Jeeples, Im in do nothing mode today and its raining.

Little bit of rain here. It’s good though. We need some.

 

[Sean L]

Oh boy... Union debate about to begin...
Better invite @ResponsibleAdult

I will say that the miners up here truly needed the unions during the early days. The working conditions were so poor and unfair that many lives were lost.

This kids/young adult book has a great historical view of it. It’s an interesting quick read if you can find a copy.
“My Name Is America: The Journal Of Otto Peltonen, A Finnish Immigrant”

Not trying to start a debate, but... Trying to say that the lack of a union doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing.

 

[Lurvis33]

It’s like an advanced sleep over :cwl: Only 3 guys participated but now we’re all waiting for Chris to wake up

 

[CrazyKASG]

Not trying to start a debate, but... Trying to say that the lack of a union doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing.

A totally valid point. I can’t argue with that.

 

[CrazyKASG]

It’s like an advanced sleep over :cwl: Only 3 guys participated but now we’re all waiting for Chris to wake up

 

[Smarrtazz]

So, to chime in an iota, I had a blast last night, and Chris makes a hell of a stew. I do suspect i surprised him a little, but ill let him share his insights. So now that coffee has once again found its way into my blood stream, I should get ready and rejoin the festivities. Make sure everyone made it awake with all appendages intact. We boys have some Jeep modding to accomplish today. OB is designated tool bitch / picture taker

OB is a tool bitch

 

[Sean L]

A totally valid point. I can’t argue with that.

Difference in culture as well I think, If conditions suck at work, the workers just leave and go work where it doesn't suck. (putting it lightly)

So employers will either keep the pay good, or have stellar benefits that go along with the job. Or both.
Conversely if you the employee suck, you're sent packing. We had to do that with a Project manager whose excessive micromanaging made work come to a virtual standstill.

 

[Sean L]

OB is a tool bitch

"I said spanner, not wrench!"

 

[ResponsibleAdult]

I live in a "Non Union" state, and while I don't have issue with workers organizing with each other, I do take issue with a REQUIREMENT to be union by an outside entity that will then just siphon money out of your paycheck. I believe the UAW (sky-high minimum wage) is a major reason the overhead was so high on small and midsize cars that Ford and FCA just can't sell them and make any money at all without skyrocketing the price of a Dodge Dart to that of a Charger...

Union membership is optional here, but since employers here go out of their way to make conditions good for the employee, very few choose to do so. Unions can be good, but if they get too big their detriments can outweigh the benefits.

It’s the union’s responsibility to seek the betterment of its members. If a company can’t afford increasing wages, then it’s their responsibility to negotiate for what they can afford. I disagree with you about the labour cost being the sole reason for the increasing price of a new car.

I believe that making union membership optional is a critical tool in the corporate agenda, served to them by politicians who are in their back pocket. It drives wages down for the entire economy, further destroys the middle class, and takes away the workers’ ability to balance the scales of corporate power.

 

[ResponsibleAdult]

It sure seemed that way to me. I saw smiles and heard laughter all around the table. We were talking and couldn't shut up. Even Gail chimed in a few times even tho she was pretty much having an off night. The introduction of someone new in the house threw her off kilter. But it all ended well.

Sounds wonderful!!! I’m glad Gail was able to participate.

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