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Actually I'll be interested in that. Curious to your need here
It's ridiculously cheap to run, as I stated in another post, just over $500 in electricity in a year and 10k miles in driving. We didn't buy it to save money, though. We wanted to experience an EV.

Basically requires no maintenance other than tires. We are just over 10k miles and I expect the tires to last to 40k+. That's not bad considering both of us drive the car ...spiritedly. Now, I do like wrenching on my hobby cars... I DON'T like wrenching on cars I drive to work or need everyday. This thing is great for that. It is the *best* toaster we've ever owned.

It's probably the most comfortable and least-fatigue inducing car I've ever had the pleasure of driving. It's quiet and rides like a vault. It's great on road trips...definitely have to stop for breaks before it ever needs a charge. we take it over to Northern Idaho (400 miles) and back any time of year. It does great.

It's also ridiculously fun to drive, very well balanced, truly, it handles like a skateboard. One-pedal driving is stupid-grin fun in the twisties. That's a nice balance to have with something that is very utilitarian, spacious, luxurious...it's very good at many different things. Including embarrassing the yee-yee diesel and vroom-vroom twits who think they're going to own a lib driving an EV. Pfft. I know not to get into situations I'm very likely not going to win. But when Kyle spools up his tuned, 250k mile Powerstroke next to me, I'm going to demonstrate that a chubby EV weighing 6,000lb can, actually, tear those small-dick doors off.

I can refuel it at home, at work, or at the store, while we eat or shop. It's really nice to be able to plug it in at home, though. When was the last time you were able to fill up your gas car at home?

EV infrastructure is still in its infancy, no doubt. But if you live somewhere where some good investment has already happened, like where we live, the situation is already "very good", even at this early stage when chargers are relatively sparse. And it only gets better from here.

First and foremost I'm a car guy. Not a greenie. And this thing... (our '24 BMW iX) is actually pretty awesome.
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It's ridiculously cheap to run, as I stated in another post, just over $500 in electricity in a year and 10k miles in driving. We didn't buy it to save money, though. We wanted to experience an EV.

Basically requires no maintenance other than tires. We are just over 10k miles and I expect the tires to last to 40k+. That's not bad considering both of us drive the car ...spiritedly. Now, I do like wrenching on my hobby cars... I DON'T like wrenching on cars I drive to work or need everyday. This thing is great for that. It is the *best* toaster we've ever owned.

It's probably the most comfortable and least-fatigue inducing car I've ever had the pleasure of driving. It's quiet and rides like a vault. It's great on road trips...definitely have to stop for breaks before it ever needs a charge. we take it over to Northern Idaho (400 miles) and back any time of year. It does great.

It's also ridiculously fun to drive, very well balanced, truly, it handles like a skateboard. One-pedal driving is stupid-grin fun in the twisties. That's a nice balance to have with something that is very utilitarian, spacious, luxurious...it's very good at many different things. Including embarrassing the yee-yee diesel and vroom-vroom twits who think they're going to own a lib driving an EV. Pfft. I know not to get into situations I'm very likely not going to win. But when Kyle spools up his tuned, 250k mile Powerstroke next to me, I'm going to demonstrate that a chubby EV weighing 6,000lb can, actually, tear those small-dick doors off.

I can refuel it at home, at work, or at the store, while we eat or shop. It's really nice to be able to plug it in at home, though. When was the last time you were able to fill up your gas car at home?

EV infrastructure is still in its infancy, no doubt. But if you live somewhere where some good investment has already happened, like where we live, the situation is already "very good", even at this early stage when chargers are relatively sparse. And it only gets better from here.

First and foremost I'm a car guy. Not a greenie. And this thing... (our '24 BMW iX) is actually pretty awesome.
So your requirement is cheap to operate and fun to drive as per my understanding.
On my side is range and ease of "recharge" both are ICE territory, this is why I say sub par.
The fun of driving is coming from the door and roof off, the public road is not a race track.
 

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So your requirement is cheap to operate and fun to drive as per my understanding.
On my side is range and ease of "recharge" both are ICE territory, this is why I say sub par.
The fun of driving is coming from the door and roof off, the public road is not a race track.
324 miles of advertised range and I’ve found that to be conservative.

I also haven’t fumbled to recharge, but I see where that might be hard from some people.
 

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Optimistic.
I do not think my tire depth gauge is “optimistic”. I too heard that EV tires last <10k, and have found that is an untrue statement for my vehicle and driving style.
 

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On my side is range and ease of "recharge" both are ICE territory, this is why I say sub par.
So if a hybrid could refuel as quickly as an ICE then you'd be willing to concede?

Optimistic.
Personally I hope your right. Cause then I can justify moving to 35s
 

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Or in other words: turn on, tune in, and drop out?
 

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LOL. I’m too uninformed on the topic. It just sounds like two kids arguing…yes It is, no it’s not. Neither side listens to the other and both sides think they’re winning the argument. I’ll see myself out now.
 

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I’d strongly favor an end to all government subsidizing in transportation. IF a better technology comes along, people WILL adapt it. If it has to take tax incentives to get them to sell, perhaps they may “not” be the ultimate answer.
 

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It's ridiculously cheap to run, as I stated in another post, just over $500 in electricity in a year and 10k miles in driving. We didn't buy it to save money, though. We wanted to experience an EV.

Basically requires no maintenance other than tires. We are just over 10k miles and I expect the tires to last to 40k+. That's not bad considering both of us drive the car ...spiritedly. Now, I do like wrenching on my hobby cars... I DON'T like wrenching on cars I drive to work or need everyday. This thing is great for that. It is the *best* toaster we've ever owned.

It's probably the most comfortable and least-fatigue inducing car I've ever had the pleasure of driving. It's quiet and rides like a vault. It's great on road trips...definitely have to stop for breaks before it ever needs a charge. we take it over to Northern Idaho (400 miles) and back any time of year. It does great.

It's also ridiculously fun to drive, very well balanced, truly, it handles like a skateboard. One-pedal driving is stupid-grin fun in the twisties. That's a nice balance to have with something that is very utilitarian, spacious, luxurious...it's very good at many different things. Including embarrassing the yee-yee diesel and vroom-vroom twits who think they're going to own a lib driving an EV. Pfft. I know not to get into situations I'm very likely not going to win. But when Kyle spools up his tuned, 250k mile Powerstroke next to me, I'm going to demonstrate that a chubby EV weighing 6,000lb can, actually, tear those small-dick doors off.

I can refuel it at home, at work, or at the store, while we eat or shop. It's really nice to be able to plug it in at home, though. When was the last time you were able to fill up your gas car at home?

EV infrastructure is still in its infancy, no doubt. But if you live somewhere where some good investment has already happened, like where we live, the situation is already "very good", even at this early stage when chargers are relatively sparse. And it only gets better from here.

First and foremost I'm a car guy. Not a greenie. And this thing... (our '24 BMW iX) is actually pretty awesome.
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LOL. I’m too uninformed on the topic. It just sounds like two kids arguing…yes It is, no it’s not. Neither side listens to the other and both sides think they’re winning the argument. I’ll see myself out now.
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