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My friend just hit 300,000 miles in his JK last month. Jeeps can last, but the JK was electrically much simpler than the JLs. Curious how my JL will last; I hope to keep it long enough to find out.
The JL I’m in will not hit 300K. I 100% guarantee it. Frame and steering components will be rotted away by 80k to 100k…
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I also see a video of a jk with 300K I wonder if there will be any broncos like that. How many miles do you suppose a 2.4l turbo or the 2.7l? turbo will last?
 

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naw man it has those new found electrionic whoziwhatits in it its gonna fail tomorrow and cost you 3 kidneys 2.35 livers and your 3rd born child to keep it running. Dont you know that all cars since after 1980 are just total garbage and cost millions to keep running.
Yea dude, now those 1980s cars were real works of art with miles of pneumatic tubing. Did ya see the Lincoln Continental from the 70s? It had pneumatic headlight covers lol. Hell, even in the 90s some cars still used pneumatic controls for the air conditioning controls and stuff.

Then the engine bay was a rat's nest of hoses. And heaven forbid one of them sprung a leak lol.

I don't necessarily get all the whining. Especially compared to something from the 90s or early 2000s where cars were a mess of tons of wiring and large black boxes. Now we've got tiny MCUs and less wiring.

Err, anyway.... this video reminds me why I paid the $850 for the 8 year warranty last year lol.

I also see a video of a jk with 300K I wonder if there will be any broncos like that. How many miles do you suppose a 2.4l turbo or the 2.7l? turbo will last?
That 2.7L.....
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I also see a video of a jk with 300K I wonder if there will be any broncos like that. How many miles do you suppose a 2.4l turbo or the 2.7l? turbo will last?
That’s my concern with all the hybrid, turbo or eventually EVs. How long are all these vehicles going to last? Seems to me they’re making them more and more complicated so that they crap out in 5 or 6 years, just like everything else in our lives (appliances to cordless drills).
 

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all these people say how uncomfortable the seats are. I don't get that, a few years back before I had my back surgery( L4/L5) I was in so much pain I couldn't sleep couldn't sit, could barely walk. The only place I was at all comfortable was in mY JLUR
 

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The JL I’m in will not hit 300K. I 100% guarantee it. Frame and steering components will be rotted away by 80k to 100k…
If you're truly a beach comber driving you're jeep on a beach filled with salt from the ocean then I think your prediction is probably accurate. I'm not a fan of driving vehicles around salt water. While I have done this on a few occasions for some fun camping, I don't drive fast on the beach and immediately wash them well underneath.
 

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all these people say how uncomfortable the seats are. I don't get that, a few years back before I had my back surgery( L4/L5) I was in so much pain I couldn't sleep couldn't sit, could barely walk. The only place I was at all comfortable was in mY JLUR
Totally agree with you. Only vehicle more comfortable than the 18 JLUR that I formerly had is my 21 JLURD.
 

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Yea dude, now those 1980s cars were real works of art with miles of pneumatic tubing. Did ya see the Lincoln Continental from the 70s? It had pneumatic headlight covers lol. Hell, even in the 90s some cars still used pneumatic controls for the air conditioning controls and stuff.

Then the engine bay was a rat's nest of hoses. And heaven forbid one of them sprung a leak lol.

I don't necessarily get all the whining. Especially compared to something from the 90s or early 2000s where cars were a mess of tons of wiring and large black boxes. Now we've got tiny MCUs and less wiring.

Err, anyway.... this video reminds me why I paid the $850 for the 8 year warranty last year lol.



That 2.7L.....
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I’ve got 120k on my 2019 JL and not one problem other than regular maintenance. Took my 2012 JK to 205k and all I had to replace was my alternator. So far, the JL is acting just like the JK.
"Well into the 100k mile range" is alot more than 120k. Don't get me wrong, i'm happy for you, but I also cringe for you because you made this statement and totally opened yourself up to what's coming. I wish you good luck sir.
 

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"Well into the 100k mile range" is alot more than 120k. Don't get me wrong, i'm happy for you, but I also cringe for you because you made this statement and totally opened yourself up to what's coming. I wish you good luck sir.
Don’t follow. My JK had 200k+ and my JL is on the same track. What’s cringe worthy about that?
 

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Don’t follow. My JK had 200k+ and my JL is on the same track. What’s cringe worthy about that?
Your assumption that the longevity of your JK reflects in ANY way whatsoever on your JL. It's like expecting a Ferrari to hold up the same as a BMW. Could not be more different.
 

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Your assumption that the longevity of your JK reflects in ANY way whatsoever on your JL. It's like expecting a Ferrari to hold up the same as a BMW. Could not be more different.
Don’t agree. But if that’s the way you see it, fair enough. Thanks for clarifying.
 

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$8,000 for 100,000 miles worth of maintenance is not that bad, considering they probably could have saved at least $5,000 if they did their own maintenance and didn't take it to the dealership every time.

I spent about $12,000 total on maintenance of my 2001 Toyota Camry over 7 years and 225,000 miles, and I only did a handful of fixes myself near the end of my ownership.
 

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I agree, a Ferrari and a BMW could not be more different.

JK's and JL's have quite a bit in common by comparison. Maybe just a bad analogy on your part.
It's a PERFECT analogy - JLs and JKs have about the same amount of things in common that a Ferrari and BMW have - things like four wheels, a suspension, some seats...etc. What they do not have in common, AT ALL, are very important things like design ethos and quality control. The JK is essentially German, and the JL is essentially Italian, and as an engineer who understands how the design and manufacture process works (and is familiar with European Engineering) I can tell you that both generations SHOW their respective roots VERY well. Thus, if you are a reasonable person, you should expect German car longevity out of the JK and Italian car longevity out of the JL. If you are not, then you can continue living in your dream world until your JL slams you back to earth in a violent way. Good luck with that.
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