Heavy Duty End Links??

[Eischman]

Straight question, are HD end links connected to the stock sway bar worth it, meaning, are they going to make a difference you can actually tell?
We're talking about longer OEM type for a 2.5 lift at about $40 a pair VS HD adjustable ones for around $150- $225 a set.
Front only.

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[Knight Offroad]

I'd much rather have non-adjustable OEM type if they set my sway bar at the angle I need versus a set of adjustable ones. I've seen several sets of adjustable links break.

 

[Some Random Guy]

Straight question, are HD end links connected to the stock sway bar worth it, meaning, are they going to make a difference you can actually tell?
We're talking about longer OEM type for a 2.5 lift at about $40 a pair VS HD adjustable ones for around $150- $225 a set.
Front only.

If you don’t mind manually disconnecting, they’d be good. I’m still running the stock links because I’m only 1-1.5” over Rubicon height. Any more and I have MOPAR 2” links.
I think the only thing to worry about with longer (front) links is if road travel can push the sway bar up into your fender liners.

 

[GATORB8]

Straight question, are HD end links connected to the stock sway bar worth it, meaning, are they going to make a difference you can actually tell?
We're talking about longer OEM type for a 2.5 lift at about $40 a pair VS HD adjustable ones for around $150- $225 a set.
Front only.

No, in my experience, you just need to keep the bar from inverting.

 

[TxJeepers]

Waste of money to spend more than $100 on end links. But just like they’ll sell you skid plates to go over your skid plates, they’ll sell you ‘heavy duty’ end links.

https://www.quadratec.com/p/mopar/front-sway-bar-end-link-wrangler-jl-mopar-lift-68306981AA

 

[Eischman]

Waste of money to spend more than $100 on end links. But just like they’ll sell you skid plates to go over your skid plates, they’ll sell you ‘heavy duty’ end links.

https://www.quadratec.com/p/mopar/front-sway-bar-end-link-wrangler-jl-mopar-lift-68306981AA

That’s kinda what I was thinking, but wanted some more input on it.
Save my money and spend it on another part of the Jeep!

 

[c20040215]

No. Don't waste your money on those "HD" or "No Limit" stuff.
What I did was I put the factory rear in the front and get a set of Mopar lift rear end links.
There is no reason to spend more than $50 to $60 for those unless you have a non-rubicon and you want the quick disconnect feature.

 

[Five Seasons]

I don't know who is doing the load calculations and material selection to come up with these things. IMO it looks ridiculous and adds un necessary weight.

 

[GATORB8]

I don't know who is doing the load calculations and material selection to come up with these things. IMO it looks ridiculous and adds un necessary weight.

I bet a lot of the No Limits component dimensions are based around the sizing needed to use an off the shelf heim that can fit the stock size bolts.

 

[c20040215]

These look equally ridiculous as the No limit. I love Steer Smart and most of their products... but... why?

 

[Headbarcode]

When a Jeep is built up to have more articulation than stock or mopar, and the front sway bar links are not being physically disconnected, heim joints are a necessity. They provide the amount of misalignment that won't limit total suspension travel, which a conventional end link can't.

The Rubicons edisconnect was designed with ease and convenience in mind, but it's very design is what limits articulation when paired with flexible lifts like Metalcloak and Rock Krawler. Hence the No Limits links pictured above. They were specifically designed to be used with the Rubicons edisconnect and not impede total suspension travel.

Personally, I wouldn't be so quick to discount the No Limits links. They serve a great purpose with the more serious setups.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

When a Jeep is built up to have more articulation than stock or mopar, and the front sway bar links are not being physically disconnected, heim joints are a necessity. They provide the amount of misalignment that won't limit total suspension travel, which a conventional end link can't.

The Rubicons edisconnect was designed with ease and convenience in mind, but it's very design is what limits articulation when paired with flexible lifts like Metalcloak and Rock Krawler. Hence the No Limits links pictured above. They were specifically designed to be used with the Rubicons edisconnect and not impede total suspension travel.

Personally, I wouldn't be so quick to discount the No Limits links. They serve a great purpose with the more serious setups.

I can confirm this. I had the SteerSmarts links (that’s a photo of mine above) on my Rubicon with edisco and they limited articulation somewhat. Changed to the RK No Limits and got significantly more flex when disconnected.

 

[Headbarcode]

I can confirm this. I had the SteerSmarts links (that’s a photo of mine above) on my Rubicon with edisco and they limited articulation somewhat. Changed to the RK No Limits and got significantly more flex when disconnected.

Same here. I started with the SteerSmarts ones back before I knew what I was doing. Once I got my knowledge built up and realized that they were countering my goals, I swapped them out for the No Limits links. Now I'm using the front and rear Antirocks, which also utilize heim joints because they always remain connected regardless of on or off road.

I know you know all of this, CT. It's more for the others that have posted in this thread, who have made it obvious that they aren't very familiar with suspension travel. And I'm not at all knocking that, as we all start from the beginning. Fortunately we have this forum to help us help each other to get our knowledge up.

 

[Chocolate Thunder]

Same here. I started with the SteerSmarts ones back before I knew what I was doing. Once I got my knowledge built up and realized that they were countering my goals, I swapped them out for the No Limits links. Now I'm using the front and rear Antirocks, which also utilize heim joints because they always remain connected regardless of on or off road.

I know you know all of this, CT. It's more for the others that have posted in this thread, who have made it obvious that they aren't very familiar with suspension travel. And I'm not at all knocking that, as we all start from the beginning. Fortunately we have this forum to help us help each other to get our knowledge up.

Just being long enough to keep the sway bar from flipping is first. Beyond that, I’m not sure that it matters if you’re physically disconnecting them. But for the Rubicon electronic disconnect where the links stay attached at each end and the sway disconnects in the middle, the articulation matters. I learned that here from @Roky who schooled me along the way.

 

[Headbarcode]

Just being long enough to keep the sway bar from flipping is first. Beyond that, I’m not sure that it matters if you’re physically disconnecting them. But for the Rubicon electronic disconnect where the links stay attached at each end and the sway disconnects in the middle, the articulation matters. I learned that here from @Roky who schooled me along the way.

Exactly. There's nothing at all wrong with sway links that have the traditional rubber bushing end links, when they are being disconnected for offroad use. The No Limits links are only needed for Rubicons with edisconnect.

And I couldn't agree more when it comes to Roky. He's quite an awesome dude!

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