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Other than the obvious being your tires stick out more, is there any other reason to have these?
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If you are running a wide tire on stock wheels you need to push the wheel out so that there isn't any rubbing while turning. It really is better to replace the wheels with aftermarket wheels with proper backspacing than to run spacers. I had spacers on my JKR but opted for wheels on the JLUR to fit the big offroading tires when I go wheeling. I run the stock wheels and tires otherwise.
 

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Pushing the wheels out also helps stability a little bit especially offroad, as you now widened your track effectively.
 

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Sometimes you may have a set of wheels/tires from a TJ/YJ and really likem, so--

You can buy the spacers/adapters/w the different stud patterns to adapt to your JEEP-

Good luck

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If you are running a wide tire on stock wheels you need to push the wheel out so that there isn't any rubbing while turning. It really is better to replace the wheels with aftermarket wheels with proper backspacing than to run spacers. I had spacers on my JKR but opted for wheels on the JLUR to fit the big offroading tires when I go wheeling. I run the stock wheels and tires otherwise.
So, question on this...(new to bigger tires)...why is it better to replace the stock wheels with the proper backspacing than to run spacers and stock tires? I actually really like the stock Rubi wheels and I'm planning on running 37" BFG T/A KOs [w 2" MOPAR lift]. Dealer said I'd need spacers but would be fine otherwise. If I should look at aftermarket wheels, I'd love to know why so I can make the right call
 

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There isn't enough backspace with the stock wheels. The Rubicon wheels have 6" of backspace, that means more of the tire is inside the wheel well. Rubicon tires are about 10" wide mounted on the stock 7.5" wide wheel. 37's are at least 12.5" wide as well as being significantly taller. They occupy more space inside the wheel well just going straight, turn the wheel and all that tire has to go somewhere. You will rub lower control arms, front bumper (yes) and maybe some other stuff under there. Push the wheel out 1.5" or so and it helps but you'll need a lift too.

As to why wheels over spacer? Much debate about that but the spacers are a solution to the stock wheel / big tire issue. Spacers of low quality have been know to crack and catastrophicly fail, they add a little more leverage to the wheel bearings (although I would argue that wheels with 4.5" backspace do too) and it's a whole extra set of lug nuts to worry about (checking torque for instance).
 

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So, question on this...(new to bigger tires)...why is it better to replace the stock wheels with the proper backspacing than to run spacers and stock tires? I actually really like the stock Rubi wheels and I'm planning on running 37" BFG T/A KOs [w 2" MOPAR lift]. Dealer said I'd need spacers but would be fine otherwise. If I should look at aftermarket wheels, I'd love to know why so I can make the right call
You don’t need spacers with the stock wheels with the 37’s. I wish my wheels would have been different. I’m not a big fan of wheels sticking out but I really like my aftermarket wheels. Don’t let anyone tell you different. I had full clearance with a few turns of the steering stops with 37’s and factory wheels and no spacers. On the road there was no rubbing even with the factory stops set. The only downside I might see is the width. The 7.5” is a little skinny but for off-road use it’s awesome. A poor mans beadlock. Here’s a couple pics for evidence. I would never run spacers if I didn’t have to.

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You don’t need spacers with the stock wheels with the 37’s. I wish my wheels would have been different. I’m not a big fan of wheels sticking out but I really like my aftermarket wheels. Don’t let anyone tell you different. I had full clearance with a few turns of the steering stops with 37’s and factory wheels and no spacers. On the road there was no rubbing even with the factory stops set. The only downside I might see is the width. The 7.5” is a little skinny but for off-road use it’s awesome. A poor mans beadlock. Here’s a couple pics for evidence. I would never run spacers if I didn’t have to.

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If you don’t have a Rubicon you do. I am basically at at 35” tire on rubicon wheels with my sport and lift - to jump to a 37” which is wider I need new wheels or spacers. We trialed it when my lift was being installed. My lift is good for 37” just not clearances.

If I keep the rubicon wheels and go to a 37” tire I will run spider trap spacers. I have on my JK and never had any issues. Don’t go cheap on the spacers.

Like others have said the other reason is if you want to adapt to a different bolt pattern. Some like wheels with the wrong bolt pattern, if you can find the right spacer/adapter it will allow you to run those wheels.
 

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If you don’t have a Rubicon you do. I am basically at at 35” tire on rubicon wheels with my sport and lift - to jump to a 37” which is wider I need new wheels or spacers. We trialed it when my lift was being installed. My lift is good for 37” just not clearances.

If I keep the rubicon wheels and go to a 37” tire I will run spider trap spacers. I have on my JK and never had any issues. Don’t go cheap on the spacers.

Like others have said the other reason is if you want to adapt to a different bolt pattern. Some like wheels with the wrong bolt pattern, if you can find the right spacer/adapter it will allow you to run those wheels.
I understand that. I was responding to another Rubicon owner. I should have been more clear in my post about that.
 

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Just remember that you can't use the JK SPACER STUD NUTS/LUG NUTS on your JLUR !

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There isn't enough backspace with the stock wheels. The Rubicon wheels have 6" of backspace, that means more of the tire is inside the wheel well. Rubicon tires are about 10" wide mounted on the stock 7.5" wide wheel. 37's are at least 12.5" wide as well as being significantly taller. They occupy more space inside the wheel well just going straight, turn the wheel and all that tire has to go somewhere. You will rub lower control arms, front bumper (yes) and maybe some other stuff under there. Push the wheel out 1.5" or so and it helps but you'll need a lift too.

As to why wheels over spacer? Much debate about that but the spacers are a solution to the stock wheel / big tire issue. Spacers of low quality have been know to crack and catastrophicly fail, they add a little more leverage to the wheel bearings (although I would argue that wheels with 4.5" backspace do too) and it's a whole extra set of lug nuts to worry about (checking torque for instance).
So, not to sound like a complete idiot, but what’s this about an extra set of lug nuts? I guess you don’t just slip the spacers on, then the wheel and then the nuts, huh?
 

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Nope, the studs are not long enough. The spacers have a set of studs that the wheel bolts to after you bolt the spacer to the hubs.
 

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So, not to sound like a complete idiot, but what’s this about an extra set of lug nuts? I guess you don’t just slip the spacers on, then the wheel and then the nuts, huh?
Like @jeepskate said, you will mount the spacers first, flush against your rotors and torque them on (make sure you use a torque wrench and get it right). I used medium strength (blue) loctite on my JK spacers. Once this is done you mount your wheels to the studs on your spacers. They recommend checking your spacer torque after 500 miles or so. I checked mine on my JK after 500 and 1000 to start then had the dealership check them when the tires were rotated, never had any issues. Again don’t go cheap on spacers, spider trax are widely used in the Jeep world, not the cheapest but well worth it for peace of mind.
 

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Like @jeepskate said, you will mount the spacers first, flush against your rotors and torque them on (make sure you use a torque wrench and get it right). I used medium strength (blue) loctite on my JK spacers. Once this is done you mount your wheels to the studs on your spacers. They recommend checking your spacer torque after 500 miles or so. I checked mine on my JK after 500 and 1000 to start then had the dealership check them when the tires were rotated, never had any issues. Again don’t go cheap on spacers, spider trax are widely used in the Jeep world, not the cheapest but well worth it for peace of mind.
Ugh, seems like a lot of extra work. Might be worth it to just find an aftermarket wheel with the proper spacing. If I've got a JLUR with a 2" lift and 37" T/A KOs, I need a wheel with 4.5" of backspace, right?
 

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Ugh, seems like a lot of extra work. Might be worth it to just find an aftermarket wheel with the proper spacing. If I've got a JLUR with a 2" lift and 37" T/A KOs, I need a wheel with 4.5" of backspace, right?
Can’t confirm as I have a sport. There are a few Rubicon’s on here running 37s on factory wheels. @TTEChris may be able to help a little more, he is much more “smarter” than me LOL. Spacers really aren’t much extra work.
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