Overland vs Rubicon

[jwas]

Hi All,

I’m a newbie in the field of Jeep and I don’t have any prior driving experience on wrangler. I’m writing the below to get some advice or thoughts from the experienced people.

Since JL announced in Australia, I’m visiting many dealers and trying to get a feel from the demo cars as well as advice from the dealers. As you may be knowing some are purely based on business and some others give genuine advice.

Based on all these plus the discussion on the forum, my take is to go for JL rubicon so that I can use it for onRoad and Off road. Main purpose of this car is for weekend drives plus little bit of daily commutation. This will be my second car and mostly 70-80 % on road and 30-20% off road. I may not go for extreme offroading ( as of this writing and never know what is going to happen in future )

Today, I visited one of the dealer. We had a detailed discussion about the purpose, usage etc, and he asked me several questions . Based on the discussion, he asked me whether I really want a Rubicon and his suggestion is to go for Overland due to the following reason

1. Driving comfort of overland on road will be much better than rubicon because of the suspension.

Overland - Heavy Duty Suspension with Gas Shock
Rubicon. - Performance Suspension

Suspension of the Rubicon is mainly meant for off road and based on my usage, its better to go with Overland. Rubicon may be bumpy and louder where as overland will be less bumpy & quiet

2. Wear & Tear of heavy duty Front Axle because of the ( 70-80% ) on road activities. Also the expense for maintaining these wear & tear due to the same.

3. Fenders are bit high ( not compared to US ) in Rubicon compared to Overland

4. All terrain tyres may not be a good choice based on my usage of the jeep on road

5. Spending extra bucks on rubicon model which may not be really used

Bit confused now and would like to hear from you all. I really love the rubicon look

Cheers
Jwas

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[Arterius2]

Get the rubicon and never look back.
20-30% off-road is MASSIVE.

Jeeping is severely contagious and what you plan now is nowhere close to what you’ll be doing even 6 month from now, then again 2 years from now.

Suspension will be swapped out, tires will be upsized, nothing will likely to stay stock once you own a Jeep. You might think you can keep it stock, you will say that now.. but yea.. no.

P.S I said the same thing before, too.

 

[Kezza]

Hi All,

I’m a newbie in the field of Jeep and I don’t have any prior driving experience on wrangler. I’m writing the below to get some advice or thoughts from the experienced people.

Since JL announced in Australia, I’m visiting many dealers and trying to get a feel from the demo cars as well as advice from the dealers. As you may be knowing some are purely based on business and some others give genuine advice.

Based on all these plus the discussion on the forum, my take is to go for JL rubicon so that I can use it for onRoad and Off road. Main purpose of this car is for weekend drives plus little bit of daily commutation. This will be my second car and mostly 70-80 % on road and 30-20% off road. I may not go for extreme offroading ( as of this writing and never know what is going to happen in future )

Today, I visited one of the dealer. We had a detailed discussion about the purpose, usage etc, and he asked me several questions . Based on the discussion, he asked me whether I really want a Rubicon and his suggestion is to go for Overland due to the following reason

1. Driving comfort of overland on road will be much better than rubicon because of the suspension.

Overland - Heavy Duty Suspension with Gas Shock
Rubicon. - Performance Suspension

Suspension of the Rubicon is mainly meant for off road and based on my usage, its better to go with Overland. Rubicon may be bumpy and louder where as overland will be less bumpy & quiet

2. Wear & Tear of heavy duty Front Axle because of the ( 70-80% ) on road activities. Also the expense for maintaining these wear & tear due to the same.

3. Fenders are bit high ( not compared to US ) in Rubicon compared to Overland

4. All terrain tyres may not be a good choice based on my usage of the jeep on road

5. Spending extra bucks on rubicon model which may not be really used

Bit confused now and would like to hear from you all. I really love the rubicon look

Cheers
Jwas

OK, so IF you are speaking the USA Models, yes some of the above is true. BUT
Here in Aust, the dealer is telling you some bs.. read on..
There is no difference in the AU Spec suspension- check the spec sheet, they all the same.
Same Fenders and Bonnet in AU versions.. not high fenders for us.
Tyres- ok you might want to get the AT's But if you just doing dirt road and Sand, the Overland rubber will be fine.
Yes - if you not an experienced 4x4 person the Rubicon with the diff locks might be over kill for you. but hey- the Overland only has an Open rear Diff and does not even get a LSD.. so well it will find it limit much faster if the ground is undulating

I do agree that a Overland is prob more to your needs and driving style and if you don't need all that leather, maybe even consider the Sport and get the LSD option and Stereo Options.. but if you want a Hardtop.. yeah Overland or Rubi.

 

[Punkindave]

This is my first jeep too, I always had sports cars and the last couple have been Subaru Crosstreks. Not sure what am overland is but I drive a US spec Rubicon as a daily driver almost 200km daily on the highway. Other than fuel costs, it's perfect. The AT tires are surprisingly quiet and ride well, the wind noise with either soft or hard top is not distracting even when making calls through the radio.

 

[Jaydee_S]

Get the Rubicon...

I feel this car will make you want to go camping / off roading more... wouldnt you hate it if you got the overland / saraha and couldnt lock the diffs or at least the rear diff if needed.. Sure you could chuck in an ARB airlocker down the track, but that'll be 3k+ alone...

 

[chacomaya]

Get the rubicon and never look back.
20-30% off-road is MASSIVE.

Jeeping is severely contagious and what you plan now is nowhere close to what you’ll be doing even 6 month from now, then again 2 years from now.

Suspension will be swapped out, tires will be upsized, nothing will likely to stay stock once you own a Jeep. You might think you can keep it stock, you will say that now.. but yea.. no.

P.S I said the same thing before, too.

What he said.

 

[jwas]

Thanks for sharing your experience and advice on the above query. It helps me to finalise my decision.

Just for everyone's knowledge, just sharing the details from the dealer on this. Regarding the suspension, dealer had attached a page from the vehicle specs in which he highlighted the componants that surround the suspension and are major factors in the reaction to the suspension and feel of the car. These additions are in the purest and simplest way of saying parts that are associated with vehicles made for nothing but offroading and add additional costs to maintance especially if not utilised and used.

For example the Dana M210 and M220 on te Rubicon is a heavy duty componant that offroad specialists sought after.

These diffs improve everything from your crawl ratio and and even your approach and departure angles that mountain climbers and hecitc offroaders fight to get....

 

[gspfunk]

Hi All,

I’m a newbie in the field of Jeep and I don’t have any prior driving experience on wrangler. I’m writing the below to get some advice or thoughts from the experienced people.

Since JL announced in Australia, I’m visiting many dealers and trying to get a feel from the demo cars as well as advice from the dealers. As you may be knowing some are purely based on business and some others give genuine advice.

Based on all these plus the discussion on the forum, my take is to go for JL rubicon so that I can use it for onRoad and Off road. Main purpose of this car is for weekend drives plus little bit of daily commutation. This will be my second car and mostly 70-80 % on road and 30-20% off road. I may not go for extreme offroading ( as of this writing and never know what is going to happen in future )

Jwas

You can’t go wrong with either. You have to decide whether on-road comfort is more important or off-road ruggedness.

I was in the same debate and ended up with a loaded Trailhawk. The Grand Cherokee is extremely capable off-road. If you get an Overland, you’ll want the ORAII (off road adventure 2) package and do research on the QuadraLift so you know about the suspension. You cannot lift it or change it out. It’s a sealed air suspension and can raise several inches for clearance in Off-road 1 and 2. In stock trim you can run 32’s w/o any mods or rubbing in most tires.

The Rubicon is amazing all-around. The on-road manners are great and it handles well. I MUCH preferred the V6 over the 4 banger. For me it was due to the uncertainty of the under chassis electrical on the turbo 4. Plus, the V6 is an iteration of a more tried and true engine. The Rubicon comes w/ 33’s and the LED headlights are great.

The deciding factor for me was 85% or so on-road and the rest off-road. I’m 10” taller than my wife, so the memory seats were a big deal, as well. Plus the Trail hawk seats are the same as the SRT.

Like I said before, either one is a good choice.

 

[rogisilva]

My first Jeep was a sport JK, It's used 5-10% off road tops due to it being my daily drive (I go off road on average about once a month). However, by the fourth or 5th time wheeling I started to wish I had locking diffs. I've don't think I've reached the limit of my sport yet but I definitely been in situations where lockers, a sway bar and even the higher crawl ratio would have helped immensely. For this reason I ordered the JL Rubicon.

You need to remember that the Rubicon is not just about being able to push the jeep further, it also helps with the easier stuff that the overland can handle, but not well. By the sound of your post I would go Rubicon, I believe you will regret the lack of capability more than the comfier ride. If you are not in a rush, wait and test drive both, then you can be certain about the level of comfort you will be compromising.

I chose capability over comfort, but I also added the Rubicon luxury pack so my butt can be warm during winter.

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