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Negotiate before or after ordering?

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also bring someone with who hates dealerships and can do simple math and isn't excited about you getting a new Jeep and will grab you by your hair and drag you out the dealership door if they feel the need.
Good advice!

Also, when they ask for your license tell them "No. I only give my license to law enforcement. I'll walk with you over to the copy machine and let you make a copy of it, but nobody walks away with my license." I also, tell them specifically, "Do not perform a credit check on me."

Might as well begin exerting some control of the process from the outset.
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