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I guess nobody knows? I would assume it can. Rock crawling surely involves high traction situations.
True enough. But rock crawling doesn’t usually involve being strapped to a tree unless you need it to pull you out.

You'll likely be fine, but I’d give it a shot without the lockers first. You might get lucky.
 

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People (myself included) run lockers on slick rock in Moab all the time. Similar levels of traction as pavement, and in Moab, you may also be turning, climbing ledges, etc…. Don’t let all these pansies scare you, get it done.
 

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winch + Spare tire ???

I did this two days ago.


With bigger trees, I hook the strap as high up the tree as I can get it and pull the whole tree over. I use the tree itself as a big lever.
 

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People (myself included) run lockers on slick rock in Moab all the time. Similar levels of traction as pavement, and in Moab, you may also be turning, climbing ledges, etc…. Don’t let all these pansies scare you, get it done.
Not really sure why any of us offering sound safe advice would be considered “pansies”.

takes one simple mistake to ruin life for ever…
 

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takes one simple mistake to ruin life for ever…
I tried to emphasize I know what I’m doing and the only unknown is the jeep drivetrain.

It’s akin to a mountain climber asking about certain gear and he gets a bunch of responses about the risks of mountain climbing.
 

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Use lockers only if you're getting slipping. Just to be safe, toss a blanket over the strap.

If it doesn't want to move, get a stump grinder guy.

On another note, just bought an Echo 620P, wonderful saw.
 

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It will probably pull it without lockers. The 4XE is a heavy bitch.

Film it either way.
 
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It will probably pull it without lockers. The 4XE is a heavy bitch.

Film it either way.
The previous vehicle I used for pulling stumps was an 8.1L 2500 suburban.

I did give it a test run with my rubi with 10% throttle with lockers activated and it was very strong. Those lockers and 4 lo definitely have real world pulling power. Certainly would win a tug of war against most half ton trucks. Maybe not like a 6k lb raptor.
 

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I tried to emphasize I know what I’m doing and the only unknown is the jeep drivetrain.

It’s akin to a mountain climber asking about certain gear and he gets a bunch of responses about the risks of mountain climbing.
My post was directed at 1996cc…
 

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My post was directed at 1996cc…
You commented about safety, long before I ever joined the party. My reference to pansies were people that were afraid of breaking their jeeps, nothing to do with safety at all. I figured he was a big enough boy to figure the safety part out for himself.

and regarding lockers not adding any value, how so? I guarantee you one wheel will break traction before both wheels would. There is always a variable: traction differences on the ground, tire pressure variance by even half a pound, etc..
 

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As typical, people are putting WAY too much thought into this.

I mean, "ruin life forever".......seriously? So pulling on a stump with lockers on is going to do this? Maybe it will just explode and kill a bus full of nuns that is driving by while you are at it.

If the vehicle is going to break while doing a slow and controlled pull of a stump, than it will definitely break the first time you take it off-road and halfway throttle up any hills or over big rocks. It's like anything, if you beat on the rig and go full throttle with the tires spinning and hopping you may break it.

My only suggestion would be too hook the strap to the back of the vehicle and pull it going forward. I do not recommend doing a hard pull in reverse simply because drivetrain components typically don't hold up as well in reverse. This is coming from somebody who has been trailriding for 20 years and broken several Dana 60 / 1-ton axle components with hard use.
 
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As typical, people are putting WAY too much thought into this.

I mean, "ruin life forever".......seriously? So pulling on a stump with lockers on is going to do this? Maybe it will just explode and kill a bus full of nuns that is driving by while you are at it.
Well I was planning on using an frayed steel cable and opening the tailgate and having 5 children sit in the cargo area.
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