Keep it Simple : European 2.0 T

[UKJeep2018]

Hi, I’m from UK and have the 2.0T with no BSG. I feel it’s very responsive and I don’t notice any turbo lag. ESS works very well for me. I get an average of around 25-26 MPG (Imperial) according to the Jeep. Unfortunately as Jeep don’t sell the turbo with BSG here I can’t draw comparisons between the two.

I do want to know the benefits of the BSG system. (Other than having the ‘mild hybrid’ tag which makes it seem cleaner). From what I’ve been reading it seems like it adds a lot of parts which could potentially break for the sake of a small gain.

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[four low]

Hi, I’m from UK and have the 2.0T with no BSG. I feel it’s very responsive and I don’t notice any turbo lag. ESS works very well for me. I get an average of around 25-26 MPG (Imperial) according to the Jeep. Unfortunately as Jeep don’t sell the turbo with BSG here I can’t draw comparisons between the two.

I do want to know the benefits of the BSG system. (Other than having the ‘mild hybrid’ tag which makes it seem cleaner). From what I’ve been reading it seems like it adds a lot of parts which could potentially break for the sake of a small gain.

I agree with you, the BSG ( Belt Start Generator) is a step on the way to achieving CAFE standards here in the USA, rather than a performance gain .
The BSG,powered by the 48v battery, cranks the engine from the ESS mode, by a front belt to the crankshaft pulley. Your ESS has a conventional starter, at the flywheel to do this.
The 70 pound feet of torque developed by the BSG doesn't propel the vehicle, that's the energy required to spin it up to start the ICE part.
The ESS on mine is smooth, would be fine for stop and go traffic ; this is the "magic" of getting the "City Mpg". That is worth millions to FCA, as we see by the monies paid to Tesla to avoid a penalty on not achieving mpg ( carbon tax)
I disable the ESS every time I start the Jeep, it's a reflex now, because I don't see a need for it in the rural driving I do.
The performance without is the same when it's active, so it's just more weight and complexity to me.
Now, I wait for the experts to chime in, and correct any misconceptions I have on this.

 

[Kidder212]

As for me, my larger concern is the maintenance on the GDI system. Every GDI system seems to have carbon issues that show up around 50,000 miles. I travel a lot of miles per year on my vehicles so if the truck has to go in every 50,000 miles to have a $1000-$1200 repair that’s going to get very expensive. We will say that the battery lasts five years on average by the time you go to replace it for $1500 seems like small potatoes in the big picture. Electric motors and batteries have been around for many years and have proved to be fairly reliable.

 

[four low]

As for me, my larger concern is the maintenance on the GDI system. Every GDI system seems to have carbon issues that show up around 50,000 miles. I travel a lot of miles per year on my vehicles so if the truck has to go in every 50,000 miles to have a $1000-$1200 repair that’s going to get very expensive. We will say that the battery lasts five years on average by the time you go to replace it for $1500 seems like small potatoes in the big picture. Electric motors and batteries have been around for many years and have proved to be fairly reliable.

The ESS, and its attendant parts, BSG unit, 48v battery, controller, circulation pump, etc are covered under the 8 year, 80,000 mile Federa! Emissions warranty. A very good thing.
The DI issues, well, that's why the all electric Wrangler is on my Wish List...

 

[Kidder212]

The ESS, and its attendant parts, BSG unit, 48v battery, controller, circulation pump, etc are covered under the 8 year, 80,000 mile Federa! Emissions warranty. A very good thing.
The DI issues, well, that's why the all electric Wrangler is on my Wish List...[/QUOTE

It would only make sense to power the EV with the 2.0L engine from the stand point of CAFE, which still returns us to the GDI known problems

 

[entropy]

Definitely a pretty cool engine, could be the future of jeep. Hopefully it proves to be reliable, I didn't get it because I was scared of it being new.

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