Confusing situation need help understanding this please....

[Shadowridr1]

Ok I need help with this one. 2019 jlu sport all stock and original components.......had the whole DW, shimmy, wonder and pulling. I changed out ball joints, this killed the DW. Replaced the steering stabilizer this helped it feel a little tighter and put in a steer smart sector bracket, this did nothing noticeable. So here's what happened that had me confused....This afternoon I made a little run to home depot. I loaded the jeep, everything in the back, probably about 200-300lbs worth of weight. Instantly I noticed a difference in how it drove and was handling. It felt leveled out, steering more responsive, and the shimmy and pulling were almost non-existent, the ride was smooth although i did notice more sway coming from the rear but otherwise nothing negative. The jeep has 78k miles now, I think the shocks are bad and thought that before this, however bad shocks DON'T make things like this happen. You guys have any ideas?? I figured weight transition to the rear would make it actually less sensitive or more floating. Does this make sense?? Putting weight in the back made the front-end feel better....

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[Headbarcode]

Ok I need help with this one. 2019 jlu sport all stock and original components.......had the whole DW, shimmy, wonder and pulling. I changed out ball joints, this killed the DW. Replaced the steering stabilizer this helped it feel a little tighter and put in a steer smart sector bracket, this did nothing noticeable. So here's what happened that had me confused....This afternoon I made a little run to home depot. I loaded the jeep, everything in the back, probably about 200-300lbs worth of weight. Instantly I noticed a difference in how it drove and was handling. It felt leveled out, steering more responsive, and the shimmy and pulling were almost non-existent, the ride was smooth although i did notice more sway coming from the rear but otherwise nothing negative. The jeep has 78k miles now, I think the shocks are bad and thought that before this, however bad shocks DON'T make things like this happen. You guys have any ideas?? I figured weight transition to the rear would make it actually less sensitive or more floating. Does this make sense?? Putting weight in the back made the front-end feel better....

Makes sense. Sagging the rear essentially caused the caster to increase, which will help with wandering and not holding position in a lane. It also decreased the toe-in in relation to the tires temporary contact patch with the ground, which can help with the shimmy over bumps and rough patches on the road.

I'd start looking for loose bushings and rod ends in the tie rod, drag link, front track bar, and front control arms. At 78k miles, those factory components are on borrowed time.

 

[Shadowridr1]

Makes sense. Sagging the rear essentially caused the caster to increase, which will help with wandering and not holding position in a lane. It also decreased the toe-in in relation to the tires temporary contact patch with the ground, which can help with the shimmy over bumps and rough patches on the road.

I'd start looking for loose bushings and rod ends in the tie rod, drag link, front track bar, and front control arms. At 78k miles, those factory components are on borrowed time.

Thank you, this is what I was think too but on like pickups and what not it has a different effect so that was throwing me off. Yes sir I agree I need to replace the entire steering linkages and suspension.... got to get this senior trip and graduation paid for first. Btw I'm the 2nd owner and the previous owner did nothing except drive and change oil. Not TSB's were ever done and I imagine not pcm flashes either

 

[Upnarms]

If you haven't already, replace your factory track bar with a hd one like steer smarts or comprable. No sense in the other mods and leaving that weak link. Tie rod and drag link would be ideal but definitely the track bar or your past issues will recur. Track bar is the weak link in the chain. Will cause those other parts to wear quick, then u are just masking the issue with stabilizer, etc. Ball joints wore out quick? What mileage? I've got a 19 and so far mine are solid (other than the factory had them loose but this was caught early). That was a known issue with 19s factory not torquing them right

 

[Shadowridr1]

If you haven't already, replace your factory track bar with a hd one like steer smarts or comprable. No sense in the other mods and leaving that weak link. Tie rod and drag link would be ideal but definitely the track bar or your past issues will recur. Track bar is the weak link in the chain. Will cause those other parts to wear quick, then u are just masking the issue with stabilizer, etc. Ball joints wore out quick? What mileage? I've got a 19 and so far mine are solid (other than the factory had them loose but this was caught early). That was a known issue with 19s factory not torquing them right

That's all in the works. Probably by this time next month all steering linkages will be bought and put on. I had a teraflex alpine TB on there for about 60 miles and pulled that junk shit off and sent it back and put the oem one back on.

 

[Iggy]

Adding weight will add grip from the tires. Maybe lower your everyday air pressure a few pounds.

The weight also caused your frame to be closer to your axles by compressing the springs. This lowered your center of gravity which is always good.

All loaded up, the track bars were more level with the ground which, in turn, allows the tires to provide still more grip.

Wranglers are not engineered to be normal handling vehicles. Their unique road manners are a series of compromises us Jeep owners simply accept.

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