2024 Willys the new base Rubicon?

[mgroeger]

I disagree with this. It has evolved to cater to people who want this, but it wasn't always so. It was designed originally based on the engineering test mule named Elvis that was a Sport TJ that they added locking Dana 44s and a 4 to 1 modified transfer. I had a 99 Sahara which was the "premium" package from that era and the base Rubicon when it debuted in 03' was much closer to a sport. Not that there was much in the way of luxury in a TJ, but the Rubicon didn't have the same standard features as the Sahara, and couldn't even be optioned with some Sahara exclusive items. Like body colored flares, or ABS. Remember that in the TJ era, the Sport was not the bottom of the lineup, it was similar to Today's Willys just below the Sahara.

Today's Willys actually hits most of the marks for what made the TJ Rubicon different from the Sport. 44s, locking differential, lower diff gears, bigger flares, and bigger tires. Really only the front locker, goofy diamond plate, and the 4 to 1 transfer gears are missing.

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[swampflyer]

The good old days where you could order the options you wanted including radio delete.

 

[Heimkehr]

The good old days where you could order the options you wanted including radio delete.

They were the days, weren't they? My YJ, purchased new, had the radio delete option. The rear bench seat was also an option...which I did elect to include. I'm not a savage.

 

[TCogs1]

Willys won’t do what? You can order it with Different gears, has the same axles as the Rubicon and will run those 39s just as easy. The only difference is a 4:1 transfer case (only good for rock crawling), sway bar disconnect, And a front locker.

you can only get 4:88 on the 2024 rubi, 4:10 are painful with 37 -40" tires.. you end up running on the freeway in 5 - 6th gear, thus (been there done that on my 2018 JLRU) .. but as others opined, it depends on what you use your Jeep for.. Me i am in the Sierras most off road jouneys, thus 4:88 are a game changer.. Pulling a trailer up grades are no issue..

 

[Jtphoto]

you can only get 4:88 on the 2024 rubi, 4:10 are painful with 37 -40" tires.. you end up running on the freeway in 5 - 6th gear, thus (been there done that on my 2018 JLRU) .. but as others opined, it depends on what you use your Jeep for.. Me i am in the Sierras most off road jouneys, thus 4:88 are a game changer.. Pulling a trailer up grades are no issue..

Exactly and you can order a Willys with 4.88 as well. Was my point there.

 

[mgroeger]

you can only get 4:88 on the 2024 rubi, 4:10 are painful with 37 -40" tires.. you end up running on the freeway in 5 - 6th gear, thus (been there done that on my 2018 JLRU) .. but as others opined, it depends on what you use your Jeep for.. Me i am in the Sierras most off road jouneys, thus 4:88 are a game changer.. Pulling a trailer up grades are no issue..

I run 38x13.5 Trail Grapplers and regularly hit 7th and 8th on highway and country roads. I agree that 4.10 are not optimal for 37" and up, and I should be running 5.13 with this setup, but you will see all gears regularly. Also haven't really seen a hit crawling rock either. I know I don't have the bite that a 5.13 gear would supply but I haven't been denied because of the 4.10s.

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