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Sorry @steersmarts this is not a smear campaign but I think consumers need to know not everything is invincible. I happen to own a steersmarts tie rod and track bar yet to install....

Mel Wade misspoke it’s clearly the drag link and not the tie rod. The drag link failed at the joint end. Looks like the stud broke.

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I did see that! Also couldn’t believe someone had a spare drag link with them.

I have the steersmarts drag link, trackbar, and tie rod. Hope I never have that happen as I don’t carry a spare.
 
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I did see that! Also couldn’t believe someone had a spare drag link with them.

I have the steersmarts drag link, trackbar, and tie rod. Hope I never have that happen as I don’t carry a spare.
I did see that! Also couldn’t believe someone had a spare drag link with them.

I have the steersmarts drag link, trackbar, and tie rod. Hope I never have that happen as I don’t carry a spare.
Yeah me too haha! I think any big trip like the rubicon everyone brings a few replacement items to share. Someone brings a welder etc.

I’m rather newer to jeeping I’m wondering how often this type of break occurs on any brand drag link or tie rod for that matter.
 

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Dude, why are helping to spread that shit stain’s (Eddie Oh) propaganda? When a vendor doesn’t give him free shit, or otherwise hurts his feelers, he trashes said vendor, including making up B.S. to make them look bad. Been his M.O. for at least 12 years or more. He is a joke. A lot new(er) Jeepers need to research him, and his antics within the Jeeping world, and not be drawn in by slickly produced YouTube videos.
 

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I couldn't see any damage on the drag link. Thought maybe it had smacked one of those boulders.
 

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I've been running #steersmarts drag and tie rod for about 6 months. I would say I beat on them a fair amount. I've had zero issues with them. I've been running metal cloaks front track bar, but have been considering adding the #steersmarts to contine battling my highway wondering. I feel confident in their products. Way of life is honestly not the end all in quality control. He likes to bash some pretty trusted brands. I would take his statement on a more micro level. The macro performance of the #steersmarts brand I think holds true.
 

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Dude, why are helping to spread that shit stain’s (Eddie Oh) propaganda? When a vendor doesn’t give him free shit, or otherwise hurts his feelers, he trashes said vendor, including making up B.S. to make them look bad. Been his M.O. for at least 12 years or more. He is a joke. A lot new(er) Jeepers need to research him, and his antics within the Jeeping world, and not be drawn in by slickly produced YouTube videos.
You're suggesting he conspired with EVO's Mel Wade to fake a Steersmarts part failure? I didn't hear any Steersmarts bashing in the video.
 

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You're suggesting he conspired with EVO's Mel Wade to fake a Steersmarts part failure? I didn't hear any Steersmarts bashing in the video.
Didn’t say that. But, research him. Look at his past. He’s a douche that bags on manufacturers that don’t give him shit or kiss his ring. Teraflex is a good example.
 
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Dude, why are helping to spread that shit stain’s (Eddie Oh) propaganda? When a vendor doesn’t give him free shit, or otherwise hurts his feelers, he trashes said vendor, including making up B.S. to make them look bad. Been his M.O. for at least 12 years or more. He is a joke. A lot new(er) Jeepers need to research him, and his antics within the Jeeping world, and not be drawn in by slickly produced YouTube videos.
Oh I know I read the multiple page thread of him and his sheep, and steersmarts butting heads on the way of life forum. Along with butting heads with Northridge. Both Bc they didn’t follow his forum rules and pay sponsor ship fees to talk about their products or company. I find it funny considering Northridge and him were best buddies (multiple videos from 2013-2015 and forum posts on his forum). While newer to jeeping I’m not new to life and don’t blindly follow his opinions or anyone’s including fanboys with steersmarts OR synergy OR any other company.

Again I do have SS products and Northridge is my main source of retail. I truly do believe in providing information to other jeepers however so they are as informed as possible. If someone can’t make up these mind about what brand product to get they need to research themselves but blindly saying steersmarts or synergy is the almighty and none of them have had an inferior product (or have ever broken) would be wrong to those whom read these forums and buy products based on popularity it a hot blonde. Haha .... I actually think she’s only ok.
 

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Oh I know I read the multiple page thread of him and his sheep, and steersmarts butting heads on the way of life forum. Along with butting heads with Northridge. Both Bc they didn’t follow his forum rules and pay sponsor ship fees to talk about their products or company. I find it funny considering Northridge and him were best buddies (multiple videos from 2013-2015 and forum posts on his forum). While newer to jeeping I’m not new to life and don’t blindly follow his opinions or anyone’s including fanboys with steersmarts OR synergy OR any other company.

Again I do have SS products and Northridge is my main source of retail. I truly do believe in providing information to other jeepers however so they are as informed as possible. If someone can’t make up these mind about what brand product to get they need to research themselves but blindly saying steersmarts or synergy is the almighty and none of them have had an inferior product (or have ever broken) would be wrong to those whom read these forums and buy products based on popularity it a hot blonde. Haha .... I actually think she’s only ok.
I hear what you are saying, fair enough.

His asshatery has been going on well before his Wayaghey website. Google his name (Eddie Oh), read the stuff from Pirate or JKOwners. He is like a cult leader to his nut swingers. Creepy. Made a lot enemies in the Jeep community with the way he has treated people and good solid companies.

There was a bounty on his pony tail years ago, you live fairly close.......:devil:

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I’m surprised no one posted it yet


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Sorry @steersmarts this is not a smear campaign but I think consumers need to know not everything is invincible. I happen to own a steersmarts tie rod and track bar yet to install....

Mel Wade misspoke it’s clearly the drag link and not the tie rod. The drag link failed at the joint end. Looks like the stud broke.

Forums are for informing fellow jeepers
So another perspective on this failure.....

Rod ends are the weak link as they are where the shear loads are encountered. You turn a wheel and it is a shear load on the rod end. That is exactly where this failed. It's the expected failure point. The rod end shaft diameter is no bigger than factory so the only strengthens gains comes from material used and construction technique. Without drilling out stuff for a bigger diameter it is what it is; and drilling it out likely just causes a failure in a much more difficult part to replace.

That part that failed is about $200 from SteerSmarts for a new rod end. You can buy a spare and probably should be carrying a spare if you are going deep off road.

In contrast on a Synergy drag/tie link that rod end is $45 for a spare and at least equally as strong.

That is the primary difference between SteerSmarts and Synergy - the cost of the replacement tie rod ends. This is why many who off road and know they will see failures eventually prefer the Synergy as much cheaper to replace and carry a couple spares.

Both are good products but the cost of servicing one is much much higher; and the chances of a rod end failure are equal between the two.
 
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So another perspective on this failure.....

Rod ends are the weak link as they are where the shear loads are encountered. You turn a wheel and it is a shear load on the rod end. That is exactly where this failed. It's the expected failure point. The rod end shaft diameter is no bigger than factory so the only strengthens gains comes from material used and construction technique. Without drilling out stuff for a bigger diameter it is what it is; and drilling it out likely just causes a failure in a much more difficult part to replace.

That part that failed is about $200 from SteerSmarts for a new rod end. You can buy a spare and probably should be carrying a spare if you are going deep off road.

In contrast on a Synergy drag/tie link that rod end is $25 for a spare and at least equally as strong.

That is the primary difference between SteerSmarts and Synergy - the cost of the replacement tie rod ends. This is why many who off road and know they will see failures eventually prefer the Synergy as much cheaper to replace and carry a couple spares.

Both are good products but the cost of servicing one is much much higher; and the chances of a rod end failure are equal between the two.
And another perspective on top of yours.....

I see thousands of dollars of useless parts on that Jeep and yet no hydro assist, which takes most of the load off the drag link, sector shaft, and steering box. I mean they even have a blingy $300 steering stabilizer on that thing which is already half the cost of a redneck ram.
 
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I hear what you are saying, fair enough.

His asshatery has been going on well before his Wayaghey website. Google his name (Eddie Oh), read the stuff from Pirate or JKOwners. He is like a cult leader to his nut swingers. Creepy. Made a lot enemies in the Jeep community with the way he has treated people and good solid companies.

There was a bounty on his pony tail years ago, you live fairly close.......:devil:

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Bwahaha! That I didn’t know hahaa. Hmm... bounty on the ponytail you say :)
 

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So another perspective on this failure.....

Rod ends are the weak link as they are where the shear loads are encountered. You turn a wheel and it is a shear load on the rod end. That is exactly where this failed. It's the expected failure point. The rod end shaft diameter is no bigger than factory so the only strengthens gains comes from material used and construction technique. Without drilling out stuff for a bigger diameter it is what it is; and drilling it out likely just causes a failure in a much more difficult part to replace.

That part that failed is about $200 from SteerSmarts for a new rod end. You can buy a spare and probably should be carrying a spare if you are going deep off road.

In contrast on a Synergy drag/tie link that rod end is $25 for a spare and at least equally as strong.

That is the primary difference between SteerSmarts and Synergy - the cost of the replacement tie rod ends. This is why many who off road and know they will see failures eventually prefer the Synergy as much cheaper to replace and carry a couple spares.

Both are good products but the cost of servicing one is much much higher; and the chances of a rod end failure are equal between the two.
Just to add, the Steer Smarts drag link has a clever "no-drill" adapter for high steer, but that means it uses a smaller diameter straight pin through the knuckle instead of a larger tapered stud. I wouldn't say this is why it failed, it could have been loose or something else entirely, but the comparable parts aren't quite the same thing. Our replacement tie rod ends are also $45.
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