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Probably not as bad as a 7 ton with only troops in the back. lol!
I mean both basically have no suspension at that point lol. Might as well just weld some girders between the axle and frame.
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I mean both basically have no suspension at that point lol. Might as well just weld some girders between the axle and frame.
Forgot that 7 Tons have coil springs. Not a lot of suspension travel though.

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Forgot that 7 Tons have coil springs. Not a lot of suspension travel though.

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The Wagon is back. New front turbo installed.
Going from Dad's Liberty back to the MKT takes a bit of adjustment. 😅😅
WAAYYY more get up n go, and smoother shifts.

Chris is having the opposite problem getting reacquainted with SIL's traverse after a week of driving the rental wagoneer.
 

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The Wagon is back. New front turbo installed.
Going from Dad's Liberty back to the MKT takes a bit of adjustment. 😅😅
WAAYYY more get up n go, and smoother shifts.

Chris is having the opposite problem getting reacquainted with SIL's traverse after a week of driving the rental wagoneer.
EcoBoost vs the old 3.7 that was merely "adequate" even in the smaller vehicles it was in.

A no-brainer, lol!
 

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EcoBoost vs the old 3.7 that was merely "adequate" even in the smaller vehicles it was in.

A no-brainer, lol!
140 HP difference, and a drastically smoother 6 spd trans vs the 4 spd slush box.
There's also the seats that don't kill your back.
Do miss the tighter turning radius, and easier parking though, but not enough to makeup for everything else.
 

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140 HP difference, and a drastically smoother 6 spd trans vs the 4 spd slush box.
There's also the seats that don't kill your back.
Do miss the tighter turning radius, and easier parking though, but not enough to makeup for everything else.
I haven't spent much time driving a Liberty, so I can't comment on the seats. lol
 

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If it wasn't I wouldn't have bought a Acura Integra A-Spec 6 speed manual at my age:). Most of my friends think I'm nuts wanting to row gears at almost 69 years old.
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