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I'm particularly looking for those who have owned (or had at least driven) a MY23 (or older) non-XR vs the new 2024 (which obviously has the "XR" as the standard).

Anyway, I had a 2022 non-XR a couple of years ago... and foolishly got rid of it. LOVED that beast. I've now driven the 2024 model but it seems like the throttle lag is more significant? It also seems like the computer is more aggressive in terms of keeping the Jeep in a higher gear, versus staying up in the RPM's. It COULD be that I had often driven the old 392 in manual mode most of the time as well, who knows. ? I don't honestly remembering having any throttle lag in the 2022, but I know many guys have discussed this since day one. The pedal commander could be worth it in a vehicle like this.
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I'm particularly looking for those who have owned (or had at least driven) a MY23 (or older) non-XR vs the new 2024 (which obviously has the "XR" as the standard).

Anyway, I had a 2022 non-XR a couple of years ago... and foolishly got rid of it. LOVED that beast. I've now driven the 2024 model but it seems like the throttle lag is more significant? It also seems like the computer is more aggressive in terms of keeping the Jeep in a higher gear, versus staying up in the RPM's. It COULD be that I had often driven the old 392 in manual mode most of the time as well, who knows. ? I don't honestly remembering having any throttle lag in the 2022, but I know many guys have discussed this since day one. The pedal commander could be worth it in a vehicle like this.
I think you are seeing the difference in 3.73 vs 4.56 gearing with the higher gearing. Also the HP75 is a learning transmission. So it learns your driving style and shifts accordingly.

As far as throttle lag. The early 392s are just better :CWL: …. Or maybe the 2024 was protecting itself because on low mileage…
 

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I think the throttle “lag” is just the result of being in the wrong gear at too low an rpm. You yourself said you were in manual most of the time, which lends the Jeep to shift higher in the rpm range so you would naturally stay in the meaty part of the torque curve on an up shift.
 

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Also, try driving it in OffRoad+ mode for a while if you haven't already, usually fixes all of those issues.
(well, assuming the '24 392 still comes with that button! ? )
 
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I think you are seeing the difference in 3.73 vs 4.56 gearing with the higher gearing. Also the HP75 is a learning transmission. So it learns your driving style and shifts accordingly.

As far as throttle lag. The early 392s are just better :CWL: …. Or maybe the 2024 was protecting itself because on low mileage…
I had those thoughts as well. I do remember that the gearing is different. I feel the '24 also gets worse gas mileage, which would make sense.

I'm not sure if the Jeep system has those types of protections or not. ?‍♂
 

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I think the throttle “lag” is just the result of being in the wrong gear at too low an rpm. You yourself said you were in manual most of the time, which lends the Jeep to shift higher in the rpm range so you would naturally stay in the meaty part of the torque curve on an up shift.
Right, that is part of the throttle lag that I'm referring to. It feels as though there is a slight delay from pushing the accelerator and the computer dropping a gear or bringing the rpm's up. If these came with different driving modes, I believe that would fix the issue. I know there is still the sport+ but I've yet to use it. (I'm trying to be somewhat gentle as the Jeep IS brand new still..) ?
 
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Also, try driving it in OffRoad+ mode for a while if you haven't already, usually fixes all of those issues.
(well, assuming the '24 392 still comes with that button! ? )
I'm assuming that, but I haven't used it yet. The earlier model 392's only had the offroad+ with the XR package.... correct? I don't recall having that in my other Jeep.
 

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I have a 22XR. I never liked the throttle as I felt you had to press it too far to get to the good stuff. The jeep also always feels like it is 2 gears too high imho. It is probably for fuel economy.

Pedal Monster does make it feel more snappy but doesn't really fix the gear selection issues. I'm not a huge fan of manual as it shifts too slow.
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