More off-road lights = better visibility?

[wibornz]

I think it depends on how you intend to use the lights, meaning where, and how fast you will be traveling. If you will be driving slow on an average two track road then the stock LEDs may be good enough. As speed increases, such as in the desert, you are going to want better lights. Over the years I have found that quality lights like Baja Designs and Rigid are worth the cost for me. Then it just becomes a matter of, if quality lights are good, then more of those quality lights is better, right?

As to the OPs post about a bunch of cheap Walmart or Amazon lights vs a few higher quality lights, I would go with the better lights. I've ridden in several vehicles with cheap lights on them, and although I would never say anything to the owner of the vehicle I am riding in, I have thought; "what, that's it?" when they turn them on. In fairness, they don't know the difference between cheap lights and good lights.

Interesting post OP. A picture of the difference in lighting with all lights being white, instead of your lights being Amber, would be a better comparison.

I agree with this in general. I have a set of Rigid cubes on the Jeep. I personally found that the light output is good, but the light do suffer from moisture in the lens. I do not use them often as The Jeep LED headlights are bright enough that I almost never turn them on.

I have been know to run 60+ in the desert on trails that I run often so the additional lights can be of value. Running in the woods, not so much so. The Suparee Helm 7 light are way better than expected.
They came with amber covers, and a black lens cover. Stainless steel fasteners, waterproof and pressure washable. and a 5 year limited warranty. Noting to hate on here.

The light output is massive. I think they put out more light than advertised. I have a LUX light meter that I bought to test the Helm 7 lights. These are readings that I have taken of the lights in my dark garage.

High beam output.

low beam output.

I forgot to snap a picture of the light output for the side facing lights. If I remember right, it was about 122K

Sometime this week, I will take the Jeep out to my field on a dark night and put the drone up so I can see the light pattern output. I will show the amber and clear lens patterns from some different angles.

I will be putting together a video about the testing and functioning that I did with the lights. There is even a begun impact test. LOL.

More to come.

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[Terrymo]

Thanks for doing a real review, Ralphie would be proud.

 

[Blues Fan 30]

I agree with this in general. I have a set of Rigid cubes on the Jeep. I personally found that the light output is good, but the light do suffer from moisture in the lens. I do not use them often as The Jeep LED headlights are bright enough that I almost never turn them on.

I have been know to run 60+ in the desert on trails that I run often so the additional lights can be of value. Running in the woods, not so much so. The Suparee Helm 7 light are way better than expected.
They came with amber covers, and a black lens cover. Stainless steel fasteners, waterproof and pressure washable. and a 5 year limited warranty. Noting to hate on here.

The light output is massive. I think they put out more light than advertised. I have a LUX light meter that I bought to test the Helm 7 lights. These are readings that I have taken of the lights in my dark garage.

High beam output.

low beam output.

I forgot to snap a picture of the light output for the side facing lights. If I remember right, it was about 122K

Sometime this week, I will take the Jeep out to my field on a dark night and put the drone up so I can see the light pattern output. I will show the amber and clear lens patterns from some different angles.

I will be putting together a video about the testing and functioning that I did with the lights. There is even a begun impact test. LOL.

More to come.

You'll shoot your eye out kid!

 

[wibornz]

You'll shoot your eye out kid!

I am dumb, but I put on safty glasses. LOL

 

[wibornz]

Alright, I need to start a thread on this.

 

[Blues Fan 30]

I am dumb, but I put on safty glasses. LOL

What are those? Lol you don't just close your eyes after and pray?

 

[wibornz]

What are those? Lol you don't just close your eyes after and pray?

Didn't catch the joke I see.

 

[SUPAREE]

I run those budget lights on my sxs. Work great for their purpose, and no lost tears if a tree with evil intentions reaches out and smashes one even tho I was in the middle of the trail in full control. Seriously, not my fault

That said, not knocking a quality product. I'm sure I'd love the performance, not so sure I'd love the side-eye I would get when the bill came

Totally fair,different tools for different jobs. We’re definitely not knocking budget lights just because they’re affordable. They make a lot of sense for certain use cases, especially when trail “surprises” happen

What we wanted to show is more about value for money and performance differences, not to say one choice is “right” and the other is “wrong.” If someone prioritizes price and doesn’t want to worry about trail damage, budget lights do the job. If someone cares more about cleaner wiring, output, beam pattern, and long-term performance, that’s where a higher-end option starts to make sense.

At the end of the day, it’s all about what fits your riding style and expectations

 

[SUPAREE]

I think it depends on how you intend to use the lights, meaning where, and how fast you will be traveling. If you will be driving slow on an average two track road then the stock LEDs may be good enough. As speed increases, such as in the desert, you are going to want better lights. Over the years I have found that quality lights like Baja Designs and Rigid are worth the cost for me. Then it just becomes a matter of, if quality lights are good, then more of those quality lights is better, right?

As to the OPs post about a bunch of cheap Walmart or Amazon lights vs a few higher quality lights, I would go with the better lights. I've ridden in several vehicles with cheap lights on them, and although I would never say anything to the owner of the vehicle I am riding in, I have thought; "what, that's it?" when they turn them on. In fairness, they don't know the difference between cheap lights and good lights.

Interesting post OP. A picture of the difference in lighting with all lights being white, instead of your lights being Amber, would be a better comparison.

Thanks for your suggestion. As requested, here are the white-light beam pattern shots of the SUPAREE Helm 7 in both high beam and low beam.

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