37” Patagonia C vs D

[Old Jeeper]

I need new tires and right now is a crappy time money wise. I really want Mickey Thompson Baja’s but at $460 a tire, that’s really pushing it.
I was looking at the Patagonia’s in 37x12.5x17.
I noticed a bunch of wacky pricing in Walmart. C rated are about $30 more a tire. For D rated, singles are sold out but they Have them available in sets of 2 or 4. However, the set of 4 is more expensive than two sets of 2. Makes no sense.
anyways, are the C’s that much of a better ride? At $300 a tire for D rated Patagonias compared to $450 for Mickey Thompsons, 5 tires, that’s a pretty big deal for me now.

My first Q is: What kind of wheeling and how often?

Rocks, mud, sand, every week or every month if that often.

Determine that and it will guide you your tire.


That said: I am a rock guy and I wheeled hard and often. As my rock I put almost 100k mi on it in less than 9 years. I wheeled from Tx to Ca and Ut to Mex. That was were I went to work, but gone a week, 2 weeks and sometime a month. I started out with GY MTRs 37x 12:50x17s, then switched to BFG KM2s.

I did change out tires yearly, but had not problem selling my tires for about $150 each so the hit was not that bad.

Done a LOT of wheeling on those Rocks and Rock trails and the BFG KM2 out performed every tire on the runs. Been on Dry Creeks in the Sonoran Desert and slate bedrock, slicking tires open like Ginsu Knife cuts thru a T tomato...guess who had the only tires NOT sliced open? I led, there were 9 Jeeps total and 2 of them had to go back to town to buy tires just to get home, but the time the run was over it was down to me and 2 others.

Cheap don't come good and good don't come cheap!

C or D again what kind of wheeling. I ran between 3-5 psi and on the street 16-18 and 18-20 on the highway.

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[eck]

I'm pretty neutral on the Patagonias, they're pretty good for the price but you can definitely do much better by throwing more money at the problem.

They definitely get squirrely in the rain though. For that reason I'm glad I have the selec-trac transfer case, because throwing it into 4H-Auto when it's wet is almost required.

 

[Floriduramax3.0]

I'm pretty neutral on the Patagonias, they're pretty good for the price but you can definitely do much better by throwing more money at the problem.

They definitely get squirrely in the rain though. For that reason I'm glad I have the selec-trac transfer case, because throwing it into 4H-Auto when it's wet is almost required.

Are you on the MT-02's or the first gen?

 

[eck]

Are you on the MT-02's or the first gen?

Sorry should have clarified, I'm on the first gen. At about 20k miles in about 3 years.

 

[Floriduramax3.0]

Sorry should have clarified, I'm on the first gen. At about 20k miles in about 3 years.

You would flip out if you see how different the 02's are in the rain! Here's Central Florida's forecast..lol The first gen was just like ice skating on a wet road! These 02's hook up good!

 

[BullMoose1776]

D rated tires are slight louder than C and slightly tougher, and slightly rougher on road. They will last longer than C rated tires too.

You didn't ask but...
Mud tires are good for mud, and pretty good for rocks, that's it. Terrible in snow, terrible in rain, terrible on road. TERRIBLE on road.

BFG KO2 is a really great tire that you will get 60k miles from with good regular 5-20k mile rotation. If you do a 5 tire rotation, add 25% more miles.

I had KM3s for a while and finally accepted that they simply weren't safe on road. Nevermind the noise. They look awesome, but they're functionally useless in 75% of applications.

In the end, a cheap tool is an expensive tool. So buy once, cry once is my philosophy. Don't skimp on tires. They're too important of a component in the system.

 

[Maverick909]

Your pats will Last a long time if you run the air pressures like the manufacture suggests. I run my pats on the highway at 36psi cold and got pressure tends to run 38-39psi this allows you to Run on the harder compound build for road travel. I air down in the dirt to 15psi. I also and running 37-12.5r17

 

[Jeepn’]

My first Q is: What kind of wheeling and how often?

Rocks, mud, sand, every week or every month if that often.

Determine that and it will guide you your tire.


That said: I am a rock guy and I wheeled hard and often. As my rock I put almost 100k mi on it in less than 9 years. I wheeled from Tx to Ca and Ut to Mex. That was were I went to work, but gone a week, 2 weeks and sometime a month. I started out with GY MTRs 37x 12:50x17s, then switched to BFG KM2s.

I did change out tires yearly, but had not problem selling my tires for about $150 each so the hit was not that bad.

Done a LOT of wheeling on those Rocks and Rock trails and the BFG KM2 out performed every tire on the runs. Been on Dry Creeks in the Sonoran Desert and slate bedrock, slicking tires open like Ginsu Knife cuts thru a T tomato...guess who had the only tires NOT sliced open? I led, there were 9 Jeeps total and 2 of them had to go back to town to buy tires just to get home, but the time the run was over it was down to me and 2 others.

Cheap don't come good and good don't come cheap!

C or D again what kind of wheeling. I ran between 3-5 psi and on the street 16-18 and 18-20 on the highway.

One big component for me is the weight, tires get heavy quick. Patagonias are like 70lbs in a 37 which is pretty hard to find. Only other tire I’ve seen in that weight is the maxxis razr AT.

 

[Jeepn’]

I got the 1-10mph rattle at about 20k. Although, it's still a blast to drive everyday. My only real complaint is living in NY, where offroading is illegal and enforced. The overall consequences are a close second to a dui charge.

Holy hell, I didn’t realize it was such a huge deal. Prob the one good thing California has going for it. We have trails for days.

 

[ghorsepower]

I only have 33" Patagonia MT's first gen I think? Yes they suck on road, not as bad as a Swamper TSL but they like to wallow and float... Aired up to 38ish they are quiet to be so agressive. Aired down to 15 in the mud they do great. I havent noticed any issues in the rain. But I drive it like a Jeep not a Ferrari. In the mud they are 100% awesome especially the Ohio clay. I just got back from Texas and had my first "rocks" experience with them and they were so so i guess? I have about 4k on them and if I get 25k I will be happy. Next I might just go for a AT in a 34 or 35 since i am not getting on the trails as much as I hoped to and might just compromise a little better street manners and taller tire.

 

[Old Jeeper]

One big component for me is the weight, tires get heavy quick. Patagonias are like 70lbs in a 37 which is pretty hard to find. Only other tire I’ve seen in that weight is the maxxis razr AT.

IIRC my 37 BFG KM2s + Walker Evans Bead Locks tipped the scales at 136 lbs

 

[Headbarcode]

The Mickey Thompson MT's are available at this time if I can help!

Are they regularly in stock? My focus is on other things at the moment, but am interested in getting a set later in the year.

 

[Discount Tire]

Are they regularly in stock? My focus is on other things at the moment, but am interested in getting a set later in the year.

We'd love the opportunity to help when the time comes, Mike!

M/T tires are a brand we do not carry in stock, however we can source them when available through our secondary supply channels or M/T directly.

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