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AGAIN, for this topic - who cares???? You aren't buying a new one. Nobody is making you change. Keep your Jeep, please. It's not your job, fight the fight you can win, not the fight that nobody cares about. EV, in whatever form, is here. It won't go away, I'm sorry. Apples to Apples - EV vs...

Oh dear dog (intentional), please stop with the Hydrogen hard on - it's not going to ever be practical on the personal vehicle scale. It's a giant maybe at industrial scale, it cost a LOT to make, it's insanely hard to keep in liquid form. It's energy density is abysmal on the scale we're all...

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT - just for one second, think about the absurdity of your last whack-doodle declarative of 80% of buyers pushing thier box of dead batteries back to their dealership - Tesla in 2022, produced 1,369,611 electric cars (up 47% year-over-year) *, if 1,095,689 of those were...

Well, at least rational minds continue to agree to disagree....

The pollution of this subject is overwhelming - not just here, at the big site as well (jeepforum). More crazies and apparently more 'Biden lovin' tree huggers' as well. Try this, pure exercise here: Compare a Wrangler, any year, doesn't mater, to a theoretical EV equivalent. I can speak to...