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No snark, but another devil's advocate: You get a paycheck for showing up and doing your job, which is a lot of what kids are slowly molded into...no more free range playing and doing what you want...start fitting into the system, little vacation, work fixed hours 8-4 (or whatever), etc. I think trophies are not great in general, but there are definitely people who want to stack their kids up and see who is best. You can motivate them without grading them against each other...ie most people in life need to push themselves to their best.

Interesting twist on the trophy thing...our 3rd grade coach hands out 2 trophies each practice (he makes his decision off to the side at the end, writes their name on them, then they bring them back next week). I really don't like that! The kids should be playing as a TEAM in practice, working their hardest and learning. Not being literally judged about who practiced the best. It just seems really weird to me all together!!!
Interesting thing about the weekly trophies. I actually like the idea, so long as it is executed as friendly competition for the betterment of the team. They do that on my university's football team - a new player each week gets to wear the #25 jersey (without going into depth, the number is retired and symbolic) - the player who, in the previous week, displayed exceptional performance on special teams. So long as the camaraderie is there, friendly competition helps you improve.

Similarly, I used to be partnered up with a teammate on my high school cross country team. We had similar paces, so we would push each other. The tricky part is that the coaching staff has to foster the proper attitude while handing out these "awards".

My two cents.
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Agreed. The first isn’t entitled, it’s what our goals as society should be.

And I think the entitled I’m talking about comes from lack of practise. Which is the fault of the older generation. We can’t get mad at college kids whose parents call, because they’ve never had to practice those difficult conversations or take ownership because their parents always called, or pushed the blame someplace else. If a 5 year old wasn’t expected to be responsible for his backpack at school, the 9 year old didn’t have to apologize for being disruptive in class, the 12 year old’s mum called to explain that the 2 week long project wasn’t done because they had hockey last night, the 16 year old went to the beach, but when McDonalds wondered why he didn’t show up for his shift, Dad said he was sick, the who is really to blame for the call to the professor? And in truth, who is actually the entitled one: the kid, or the parent who avoided any conflict with their child?
I’m a big believer in my girlies taking responsibility for their actions. This is not automatic. This is a continual lesson for them and myself. It can begin as something as insignificant as having them speak up and order for themselves..using their voice instead of relying on me to speak for them. I also have taught my daughters please, thank you, and pardon..they are in the minority in comparison to their classmates. Bottom line, to me, it’s the parents role to hold their children to higher level and to not make excuses, and it’s the children’s role to take personal responsibility and to achieve their personal best.
 

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I am a proponent of rewarding excellence and people that excel should be recognized. But I disapprove of stripping recognition away from anyone that isn't superman/woman. Imagine if Olympic athletes were sent away in shame if they didn't get a Gold Medal, or if the Military only had the Medal of Honor and nothing else.

"You crossed the finish line .02 seconds after the first place runner... You Suck!"

"You rescued 2 wounded Marines and reorginized your squad to assault through the ambush, but you didn't jump on any grenades or bayonette the enemy general.... You Suck!"


These examples are the mentality that I am against.

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Agreed. Shaming those who aren't the best is just stupid. Award excellence and/or exemplary performance, but use it as a means of motivation for the rest of the team to do better. That's why Employee of the Month awards exist, for instance.

These awards lose their meaning if everyone gets an award though. That's why I'm against participation awards. They're hollow and devoid of meaning.
 

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I’m a big believer in my girlies taking responsibility for their actions. This is not automatic. This is a continual lesson for them and myself. It can begin as something as insignificant as having them speak up and order for themselves..using their voice instead of relying on me to speak for them. I also have taught my daughters please, thank you, and pardon..they are in the minority in comparison to their classmates. Bottom line, to me, it’s the parents role to hold their children to higher level and to not make excuses, and it’s the children’s role to take personal responsibility and to achieve their personal best.
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Agreed. Shaming those who aren't the best is just stupid. Award excellence and/or exemplary performance, but use it as a means of motivation for the rest of the team to do better. That's why Employee of the Month awards exist, for instance.

These awards lose their meaning if everyone gets an award though. That's why I'm against participation awards. They're hollow and devoid of meaning.

I don't think they're Hollow or meaningless.

My Afghanistan Campaign Medal (That I and everyone else got for just being there) does nothing to diminish the Silver Star Medal Captain Ingham was awarded for his heroism.
 

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I’m a big believer in my girlies taking responsibility for their actions. This is not automatic. This is a continual lesson for them and myself. It can begin as something as insignificant as having them speak up and order for themselves..using their voice instead of relying on me to speak for them. I also have taught my daughters please, thank you, and pardon..they are in the minority in comparison to their classmates. Bottom line, to me, it’s the parents role to hold their children to higher level and to not make excuses, and it’s the children’s role to take personal responsibility and to achieve their personal best.
Yes, teaching your children to function in this world in a polite manner, is the best thing you can do for them.
 

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I wish I hadn't listened to their moronic commentary.... :facepalm: This is why 16 year old white kids shouldn't have cameras lol.

Can't tell what state, and the laws on left lane travel are different in each one, but Kudos to the cop for just getting em out of the way and not making a huge deal.
 

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I wish I hadn't listened to their moronic commentary.... :facepalm: This is why 16 year old white kids shouldn't have cameras lol.

Can't tell what state, and the laws on left lane travel are different in each one, but Kudos to the cop for just getting em out of the way and not making a huge deal.
Kid commentator was a moron
 
 







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