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"Lost" doesn't begin to explain it in my opinion.

Consider for a moment what that generation (of which I am a member of) has gone through:
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-A computer in every house
-TVs in multiple rooms
-Cordless phones
-The rise of cell phones
-Smartphones
-Walkman->Discman->Minidisk->MP3 players-> iPod
-THE INTERNET

Our childhoods went from playing outside in the woods or street every day to being parked in front of a screen all day.

Deeper...
Go to school, get your 4 year degree, get a job... only to witness the death of the American Dream in the Great Recession. We did everything we were told to do, and watched as the goalposts got moved further and further back. We have been thrust into an economy that is infinitely more difficult to get started in than it was 30-40 years ago. The cost of living, housing, food, tuition have all exploded, yet wages remain stagnant. We watch, marginalized, as the generation before us scavenges whatever is left. We played the game by their rules only to find that the game has changed. We got a shit deal. And now we are continually told that it's our fault that we are in the situation we are in.

I'm not trying to point fingers or play the blame game here or be confrontational (I still love you guys!). But, yeah, wouldn't you feel "lost" after all that? At 31, I just now started making enough money to save some of it (which I spent on a $40,000 toy, but that's my fault ;) ).

My point is, if you look at how drastically the social, political, and economic landscapes have changed in the last 35 years, and then consider that a whole generation grew up in the middle of that turmoil, the fact that we are "lost" is elementary.

(Stepping off my soapbox now...)
I'll say this about that...Generalizations, stereotypes etc., even worse, all out bigotry, especially when applied to people, are/is always a bad thing. So all this talk about millennials is rubbish, as is the overall mob mentality ofour politics, the media and our society in general. Having said that, you do live in a country where opportunity still abounds. Yeah, it's harder than it used to be but none of the accomplishments by the generations before you were easy, it took hard work, and still does...and maybe a little luck.

That's what I tell my daughters.
 

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I'll say this about that...Generalizations, stereotypes etc., even worse, all out bigotry, especially when applied to people, are/is always a bad thing. So all this talk about millennials is rubbish, as is the overall mob mentality ofour politics, the media and our society in general. Having said that, you do live in a country where opportunity still abounds. Yeah, it's harder than it used to be but none of the accomplishments by the generations before you were easy, it took hard work, and still does...and maybe a little luck.

That's what I tell my daughters.
I mean, I'm living proof of what you tell your daughters...not to toot my own horn or anything. Living independently, working in a good job (after seven years of university and grad school), and I just purchased (well, leased) my first vehicle on my own, and it's not an $18k Nissan, it's an optioned out JL. I'm doing rather well for someone of my age nowadays.

The majority of my ire stems from the rhetoric I get about how I'm part of a cohort of lazy, weak willed, whiny babies (which is more or less the gist from the critics that be). Again, was not meant to start something with you guys, but merely underscore the sense of "loss" or listlessness. I've been down that path. It gets...dark. Fast.

As stated above by others, one of the best things about our little group here is that we are accepting of each other despite our incredibly varying lives, ages, beliefs, experiences, etc. I hope we all realize just how special that is. :fist bump:
 

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I mean, I'm living proof of what you tell your daughters...not to toot my own horn or anything. Living independently, working in a good job (after seven years of university and grad school), and I just purchased (well, leased) my first vehicle on my own, and it's not an $18k Nissan, it's an optioned out JL. I'm doing rather well for someone of my age nowadays.

The majority of my ire stems from the rhetoric I get about how I'm part of a cohort of lazy, weak willed, whiny babies (which is more or less the gist from the critics that be). Again, was not meant to start something with you guys, but merely underscore the sense of "loss" or listlessness. I've been down that path. It gets...dark. Fast.

As stated above by others, one of the best things about our little group here is that we are accepting of each other despite our incredibly varying lives, ages, beliefs, experiences, etc. I hope we all realize just how special that is. :fist bump:
I do, especially in these times. ;):fist bump:
 

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I'll say this about that...Generalizations, stereotypes etc., even worse, all out bigotry, especially when applied to people, are/is always a bad thing. So all this talk about millennials is rubbish, as is the overall mob mentality ofour politics, the media and our society in general. Having said that, you do live in a country where opportunity still abounds. Yeah, it's harder than it used to be but none of the accomplishments by the generations before you were easy, it took hard work, and still does...and maybe a little luck.

That's what I tell my daughters.
I believe that success is still possible, yes. But there are structural barriers to it that haven’t existed in previous (recent) generations and denying that those exist both ignores the reality of millennials and serves the interests of those benefiting from the system those barriers create.
 

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I believe that success is still possible, yes. But there are structural barriers to it that haven’t existed in previous (recent) generations and denying that those exist both ignores the reality of millennials and serves the interests of those benefiting from the system those barriers create.
My goal is to win the lottery and ascend above the rabble of the working middle class, buy an election or three, and retire to Colorado or Utah at the ripe age of 45, where I can drive my Jeep all day.

Really, it would be nice if I won the lottery, but I'll just resign myself to 40+ years of working for The Man until I die of depression or stress. Or, in the event that I make it to retirement, despair, following the discovery that the 401(k) and Social Security buckets that I paid into are essentially worthless. :(

The best part about driving my Jeep is that for a few minutes each day, I forget about all of that. :involve:
 

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My goal is to win the lottery and ascend above the rabble of the working middle class, buy an election or three, and retire to Colorado or Utah at the ripe age of 45, where I can drive my Jeep all day.

Really, it would be nice if I won the lottery, but I'll just resign myself to 40+ years of working for The Man until I die of depression or stress. Or, in the event that I make it to retirement, despair, following the discovery that the 401(k) and Social Security buckets that I paid into are essentially worthless. :(

The best part about driving my Jeep is that for a few minutes each day, I forget about all of that. :involve:
Sorry all, the cynic is strong in me tonight. :asshat:
 

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Good Morning all ....I'm out the door in about 15 minutes so I want to wish everyone a happy Wednesday !!!

Boy Y'all got deep in here last night !!!

Love to respond to all of these great posts I gotta go Trudge the road of happy destiny !!
 

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Good Morning all ....I'm out the door in about 15 minutes so I want to wish everyone a happy Wednesday !!!

Boy Y'all got deep in here last night !!!

Love to respond to all of these great posts I gotta go Trudge the road of happy destiny !!
Good morning Dan :)
 

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Good Morning all ....I'm out the door in about 15 minutes so I want to wish everyone a happy Wednesday !!!

Boy Y'all got deep in here last night !!!

Love to respond to all of these great posts I gotta go Trudge the road of happy destiny !!
Good morning, Dan:)
 
 







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