The 4XE is a true Hybrid and by your logic....is much more likely to burn in it's lifetime. Thanks for cleaning that up for me.OK lets settle this...
Seems like EV catch fire a lot less than any other types of cars. However, Hybrids are much worse than any other for catching fire.
What type of cars catch fire the most?
A recent study by US insurer, AutoinsuranceEZ found that hybrid cars had the worst fire record, while EVs were the least likely type of car to catch fire. Hybrid cars had 3474.5 fires per 100,000 sale; petrol cars had 1,529.9 fires per 100,000 sales and EVs had just 25.1 fires per 100,000 sales
Shit.. I know taking the hard top off is a huge pain in the ass, but surely there is a more cost effective way than this.Seen this in my feed today of a parked 4XE battery going nuclear. The hard top gets some real hang time.
Model Y saving us $500/mo in gas costs v when my wife had an Acura MDX. 3 kids, 3 dif schools, 6 dif sports.Shit.. I know taking the hard top off is a huge pain in the ass, but surely there is a more cost effective way than this.
As an EV owner people often ask me, which EV should I get. Easy. None. Unless you are a niche demographic where the savings are extraordinary, like my current situation, don't buy one right now.
Wait until 2026 - 2028. Several solid state battery packs are nearly their homologation process. It seems to be taking about a year longer than I thought it would, but they are finally starting to roll off a few production lines.
Short term, these batteries will be too expensive, but as things ramp up they will be cheaper than the LiPio batteries.
They are significantly better. 10 minute charge times to full as well. Not LiPo battery "full" where you cannot actually fully charge it. Plus, you can take it to zero with no harm.
Dendrites are also no formed.
This is very important because that is often what starts the thermal runaway on lipo batteries.
Basically, you get conductive arm that grows between in the anode and cathode and creates a short circuit. Then BOOM.
Thermal runaway does not happen in solid state.
Then, good for Jeeps, they are like 1/2 the weight of a lipo cell.
They are good for at least 500k miles.
They can be recycled.
Are EVs fun to drive? Yes. They are also way more relaxing to drive.
Still, there is no way I would buy an EV today as a private car. Wait for proper batteries.
Precisely - In a lifetime of vehicles since my first in 1968 I have owned 1 “Transportation” vehicle. I found the wife a wanted Camry, but even then I extensively searched for a rare V6 Coupe, otherwise Muscle Cars, Jeeps- even a couple Muscle Jeeps , 4WD’s PU’s, and a couple Classics. No boring “Transportation” for me. No- No Thank You ….. was driving the Jeep off road since ~ 65…. Took the bus prior, never liked it, don’t want a “bus” equivalent vehicle.These threads are funny.
First of all, a 4Xe is a hybrid, not an EV. It’s an inefficient hybrid.
Second is anyone calling a Wrangler 4Xe “a superior form of transportation” makes me laugh. It’s a Jeep, hardly superior. All of us here knew the drawbacks of a Jeep product when it comes to quality, usefulness and efficiency. There are far better forms of “transportation”. Yet here we are, hybrid models or non hybrid. Yes, both are ICE.
No matter which propulsion method your Wrangler has, no one here can defend the practicality of a Wrangler. Almost no one needs a Wrangler, there are far better choices out there for an efficient transportation appliance or a utility vehicle.
But we all, well most of us, have a common love for Jeeps for a variety of reasons. Mostly it’s the cool factor. For nearly every argument for why one buys a Jeep, there is a better vehicle on the market to fit that need. We all know that.