XR observations

[Conman]

I added Clayton Offroad springs and it fixed my issue after adding aftermarket bumper and winch.

Was it the 2.5 inch lift springs?

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[Cajunali]

Did you just replace the front or front and rear springs? I assume you would need to replace both, but I'm new to this suspension stuff.

Just the front and I still have a slight rake.

 

[Cajunali]

Was it the 2.5 inch lift springs?

1.5 they are stiffer but didn't affect my ride quality any from what I felt.

 

[Conman]

1.5 they are stiffer but didn't affect my ride quality any from what I felt.

I am looking at getting the Clayton 1.5 springs, besides being stiffer are they taller? Did you do front and rear?

 

[Cajunali]

I am looking at getting the Clayton 1.5 springs, besides being stiffer are they taller? Did you do front and rear?

No they aren’t but they will give you a little more ride height than stock.

 

[AcesandEights]

Think any of the discussed potential downsides of the XR's are being addressed on the 2023 builds? Or will they just keep rolling them out with these odd choices?

There's nothing to address. It's exactly as designed. It's like asking if they're going to address the axles on the Sport by adding D60 front and rear. The answer is it's offered as designed; whether it's what you want or not is up to the consumer. The bump stops aren't a "flaw", it's a design element based on the larger tire size. It may not work as you want, but it works as designed.

 

[GrayWolf.Overland]

Ah, then you will have too little caster. If you raise the XR ~2” on stock JL LCAs you will need longer LCAs.

woah.. so the XR doesn't come standard with the longer LCA from the 2" mopar lift?

 

[kilian73]

woah.. so the XR doesn't come standard with the longer LCA from the 2" mopar lift?

Nope. Pretty lame.

 

[hoag4147]

woah.. so the XR doesn't come standard with the longer LCA from the 2" mopar lift?

Nope

 

[GrayWolf.Overland]

Nope

What the actual fk.
FCA had all the ingredients to do it the right way by taking parts from the 2" lift.. and they still botch it up to save pennies.

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If its any consolation.. People who are comparing this to bronco sasquatch.. its not all roses there. Sasquatched broncos without the HOSS 3.0 suspension components need to upgrade or weld reinforcement to the front tie rod

 

[hoag4147]

What the actual fk.
FCA had all the ingredients to do it the right way by taking parts from the 2" lift.. and they still botch it up to save pennies.

....
If its any consolation.. People who are comparing this to bronco sasquatch.. its not all roses there. Sasquatched broncos without the HOSS 3.0 suspension components need to upgrade or weld reinforcement to the front tie rod

They should be installing them on every Rubicon, XR or not

 

[robtown]

I guess I expected a little too much from the XR package but purchasing sight unseen, it was a little bit of a gamble and without the added weight from the added steps, bumper, and winch it seemed quite capable. Of course, I added these in the first week of ownership with about 200 miles so not like I had much of a chance to experience the stock configuration.

I will say that even with the minimal space before hitting the bump stop, the XR did still perform well with mild off-roading while in CO on vacation this summer.

I made the assumption the 1.5” XR lift would be comparable to the 2” Mopar lift which seems to not have this issue even with most adding additional weight through bumpers, winches, etc…

My main goal with the XR package was to have a capable Jeep with lift, gears, 35s, etc… all under a factory warranty for a reasonable package price without the need to modify for the weight.

In the end, I likely still would have purchased the High Tide.

Now, the question is where to go from here…

1) 1” front spacer and 0.5” rear spacer to restore ride height, bump stop clearance, and shock stroke but to the detriment of warranty and perhaps stability

2) new springs such as AEV 2.5” high capacity but hope I don’t need to replace lcas, shocks, track bars, etc…

3) add Mopar 2” lift to maintain factory warranty


I guess I’m leaning towards #1 as a stop gap (haha, pun intended) for a little while to see where I ultimately want to take this Jeep. Then look at either the Mopar 2” lift or a more extreme setup as I could see myself wanting to move up to 37s and I still plan to add lights, skids/armor, bike rack, and I’m sure more weight-adding mods.

 

[191185]

@robtown

Please keep us informed whichever way you end up going. . . I'm watching this thread closely trying to decide myself.. Except I have nowhere near the knowledge to figure it out myself, yet.

My XR jeep is stock, with the exception of the aluminum nextventures bumper, and Warn winch. I have about 3/4" before hitting the stop.

 

[hoag4147]

@robtown

Please keep us informed whichever way you end up going. . . I'm watching this thread closely trying to decide myself.. Except I have nowhere near the knowledge to figure it out myself, yet.

My XR jeep is stock, with the exception of the aluminum nextventures bumper, and Warn winch. I have about 3/4" before hitting the stop.

IMO - If you like how it rides and handles, throw a spacer in the front and call it day.

 

[AcesandEights]

@robtown so what's it doing or not doing that you need to change it? Why do you have to change it?

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