Com’on he is more likely 700-1000lbs over the tow rating without a load in his Jeep or in the boat. The wrangler has limited tow ratings based on many factors and was never designed or intended to tow heav. Mine sags when I am pulling my mowing equipment and at most I am pulling 1800lbs with a tongue weight of about 230lbs.
Oh ok. Then worry about this: People sue other people for much less! This one will increase your liability real quick.
First off, I'm not advocating doing anything illegal or unsafe, just correcting misinformation. Secondly, I really hope you (guys) are this stringent upon other safety measures though, like speeding. But I'm sure none if you do that illegal behavior either.
Good to see. My boat is ~3500 and I will probably tow it very short distances once or twice a year. Mines a pontoon so it's like dragging a billboard the wrong way.The boat is a 2018 Bayliner VR5. Weight of boat with trailer is probably right around 4200-4400 lbs.
The weight listed is with a 150HP outboard, the stern drive weighs approximately 310lbs more so you are looking at a dry weight of 3925lbs. 33 gallons of marine fuel (premium) for this example weighs about 215lbs - so now just the boat full of fuel and the trailer weigh 4140lbs. Average pin weight is about 10-15% depending on how it sits on the trailer. So pin weight of the boat would be somewhere between 415 and 621 lbs.
But it's funny to see the very first post give the Jeep a "10 out of 10" for towing that boat, which is clearly larger than the Jeep itself, and then post a picture which shows the suspension sagging and the tongue of the trailer pointed downward. Lol.
Let me see if I follow the argument here, which if not intended, morons will nevertheless read this as:
I'd agree if the testing were down in controlled and safety inspected closed track conditions. What if the OP didn't fair as well? What if the tow went South? I also like to know how much my products are over-engineered, but not as a result of unsafe testing that only after the fact can be reported as having not gone sideways (pun or not.)
I simply don't know what part of, "it's not your call to make to tow over spec," you feel doesn't apply to you? I'm tired of hearing people talk of "their right. their choice" as they mistakenly cloth themselves in the American flag, a country of laws, many good ones, that we don't get to violate just because we're not, or feel ourselves not (whether true of false) the idiots the standard of law was written to take into account.
Ahh, the "but officer, others were going 90 mpg in a 65, I was only doing 80," slippery slope.
I'm going to guess it's because you missed the point. Case law has shown forum site publishers to be held in part liable for irresponsible content they allow to have on their websites. My advise came from that perspective.
There it is: the classic "those who miss the point" wear the flag as their defense line.
Wow, how responsible of him to NOT do these things. The point is that he paid no attention to the published tow rating.
Neither you nor I cant have any idea whether or not some moron, on the fence about such grossly irresponsible towing might get empowered by the near immortality he things his Wrangler provides him when reading of people doing things with their rig beyond safety spec. You are though correct about there being more problems in that person's life and executive decision making process. There's the problems of his passengers, his property, and that of others on the road.
Yeah, I stopped taking it seriously on post 1 with "noticed no difference in handling whatsoever". Riiight, with a 4400lb load, which is 25% over max rating? Even at max rating I hope a person would notice and be able to respect a handling difference, safe or unsafe.I skipped over this thread, apparently for good reason.
I guess one good thing we can take from this thread is that since he handled that oversized load well, the rest of us should be in great shape towing within specs.
