Wrangler 392: Looking to haul more than ass

[SSWIM]

Entertaining watching this thread evolve. Just like so many others regarding towing. The towing police are everywhere. LOL

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[WXman]

Been a big appeal but from what I've heard, still struggles and isn't fun to tow with

I have hauled at maximum payload and towed at maximum towing capacity with the gas version and it worked just as well as any full size truck I have ever owned. And I have owned a lot of full size trucks. I can only imagine that the diesel Gladiator I have on order right now will be even better.

 

[Headbarcode]

A vehicles frame construction is what determines tow capacity. The Jeep frame is designed to flex to a certain degree, which is helpful offroad. A rigid frame that resists flexing is what makes pickups ideal for towing and hauling. Stiffer suspension and longer wheelbase play supporting roles in towing/hauling, but capacity begins with frame rigidity.

 

[cook03tj]

I tow with a 3.6 and a slightly smaller trailer and personally I think the JLUR makes a pretty good tow rig. Mine is 2558 lbs. dry, and I did move some stuff around to take some weight of the tongue.

I think if you try hard to keep it light and don’t fill your water tank until close to destination, you’ll be fine. Take my opinion for what’s it worth, we all have em.

When the trailer becomes heavier than the tow vehicle everything changes.

40 years driving triple trailers in Oregon gives me some street cred on the subject.

mine is a little longer but very similar to yours.

 

[av8or]

mine is a little longer but very similar to yours.

You do have slightly more power than me.

 

[cook03tj]

A regular Rubicon tow capacity is 5500 lbs overseas...use that information as you see fit.
https://www.boatsales.com.au/editorial/details/2019-jeep-wrangler-tow-test-121566/

Everything else is the same with those units vs the US ones correct? Is it just our regulations are stricter or the manufactures have to use a specific calculation here? Seems crazy the US versions are rated at 2,000 lbs less.

 

[Headbarcode]

If one is smart with weight distribution, and isn't looking to break land speed record's, it can be done. But it's up to the individual to decide if straddling the risk is worth the reward.

 

[zrickety]

Everything else is the same with those units vs the US ones correct? Is it just our regulations are stricter or the manufactures have to use a specific calculation here? Seems crazy the US versions are rated at 2,000 lbs less.

I couldn't tell you. I made a thread about it and someone suggested the lawyers are the reason, but I don't believe that. I think Jeep/FCA is sandbagging us.

 

[mgarciaknight]

Couple weekends ago I had to tralier my 1978 original Mini to the mechanic about 70 miles away. Used the landscapers dual axle v-shaped tongue trailer. Not sure what trailer weighed but Mini weighs about 1600lbs. Put most weight up front for better stability. It did weigh down the back of my 2021 JLU80 suspension. But super steady on the highway at 55mph with cruise control.

 

[Notorious]

But it's up to the individual to decide if straddling the risk is worth the reward

This is true.

There are some folks on this forum who will intentionally provide bad advice just so that they can see carnage happen to someone else’s vehicle.

After all, it’s not their Jeep so what do they care?

 

[SecondTJ]

I couldn't tell you. I made a thread about it and someone suggested the lawyers are the reason, but I don't believe that. I think Jeep/FCA is sandbagging us.

Look at the Power Wagon.

GVWR is normally 10,000 lbs but because of its off-road setup GVWR is reduced to 8,565 lbs resulting in lower payload & towing ability.

Bronco will be capped at 3,500 lbs towing too. These soft suspension setups for maximum articulation off road result in lower payload & towing ability.

 

[rts4714]

I have hauled at maximum payload and towed at maximum towing capacity with the gas version and it worked just as well as any full size truck I have ever owned. And I have owned a lot of full size trucks. I can only imagine that the diesel Gladiator I have on order right now will be even better.

You would know better than I, I've never even sat in a gladiator. Just what I've heard from someone else which is why I noted that lol

 

[oceanblue2019]

Do you know of anyone who makes a hitch for the JL that bolts to the frame and not a crossmember?

Call LOD off-road. Their rear bumper replaces the factory hitch mount and ties it to the original hitch mount location as well as the frame rails. As you only need ~500lbs more tow it is worth calling them.

Their rear bumper uses 8 additional 14mm bolts to attach to both ends of frame rails - 4 on each rail - plus the original 4 pickup locations for the factory tow hitch. The question is did LOD pull test a bumpers tow hitch and to what pull rating.

 

[oceanblue2019]

Couple weekends ago I had to tralier my 1978 original Mini to the mechanic about 70 miles away. Used the landscapers dual axle v-shaped tongue trailer. Not sure what trailer weighed but Mini weighs about 1600lbs. Put most weight up front for better stability. It did weigh down the back of my 2021 JLU80 suspension. But super steady on the highway at 55mph with cruise control.

Change your screen name to Austin Powers

 

[zrickety]

Look at the Power Wagon.

GVWR is normally 10,000 lbs but because of its off-road setup GVWR is reduced to 8,565 lbs resulting in lower payload & towing ability.

Bronco will be capped at 3,500 lbs towing too. These soft suspension setups for maximum articulation off road result in lower payload & towing ability.

That's fine, but it doesn't explain the different tow capacity overseas.

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