Would you buy a factory V8 JL/JLU?

Would you buy a V8 Wrangler JL/JLU


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BTW, how many Hellcat 700BHP are shipping internationally?
The Trackhawk, priced over USD 122,000 (after tax) will only arrive in Feb 2018 in Australia but it's already sold out:
https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news...details-116667.html?trackLink=articleResults7

The V6 is a better fit. Sorry to all of you that want your Jeep to make you feel like a superhero.
The physical dimensions of an engine have to be considered as well. We don't want an engine that limits articulation. That is where the short stroke, 60 degree Pentastar is good.
Classic examples of naysayers. No one said a V8 should be the only option that should be offered. If your V6 is too good, turn the engine off and push it for all we care but don't tell others they shouldn't have options.





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I guess I really don't understand the appeal of more power, especially combined with a lift. I'm not taking it out for track day. I have more than enough with my I6 to get up to highway speed quickly.

I rather like the fact that my Jeep makes me a more deliberate driver. I'm not going around corners crazy. I have to think about what configuration to be in before I even leave the house. I can't leave shit everywhere because I have so little secured cargo, so I have to think about what to take with me.

Serious question, earnestly curious: what would more power do?
It allows you to be Rambro.
 

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Here we go again. Another thread about a V8 Wrangler that'll forever remain a unicorn fairy tale. Sigh...:facepalm:

If you do a search, you'll find lots of talk about why there has never been, isn't now, and never will be a factory V8 Wrangler.

Now that new 4.0L I-6 that they're working on, that might possibly happen in another few years. It's rumored that the I-6 will replace the V8 in most vehicles.
 

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Here we go again. Another thread about a V8 Wrangler that'll forever remain a unicorn fairy tale. Sigh...:facepalm:

If you do a search, you'll find lots of talk about why there has never been, isn't now, and never will be a factory V8 Wrangler.

Now that new 4.0L I-6 that they're working on, that might possibly happen in another few years. It's rumored that the I-6 will replace the V8 in most vehicles.
You could have said the same thing about a diesel engine.
 

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From a safety standpoint, a vehicle with a very high center of gravity, non-speed rated tall sidewall tires, and a suspension designed for off-roading is not a good candidate for a highly tuned V8. Yes FCA has the high output V8s in the lineup, but most of those vehicles come with wide speed rated tires and performance tuned suspensions. The Pentastar versions of the GC, Charger and Challenger easily outsell the SRT or Hellcat models. CAFE is slowly killing off the big V8s even with fuel saving technology.
 

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I voted supercharged Pentastar. Don't really "need" a V8 but some more available power would be nice at times. That's also something I would consider doing aftermarket once my wallet recovers from the initial ass-whooping it's going to take from the purchase.
 

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Nope. I wouldn't want to pay more than I already am, plus I like the Pentastar.
 

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You could have said the same thing about a diesel engine.
The diffrence is auto manufactuers are moving away from V8 anywhere they can not towards it.
 

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Here we go again. Another thread about a V8 Wrangler that'll forever remain a unicorn fairy tale. Sigh...:facepalm:

If you do a search, you'll find lots of talk about why there has never been, isn't now, and never will be a factory V8 Wrangler.
Pehaps while they Google all the unsupported fairy tale unicorn theories of the V8 in the Wrangler, you can do a Google search and provide a link to any source for your claims. Perhaps this thrid time you’ll actually be able to provide somethihgnother than a fairy tale of an engineers comments from yester year when he ssaid the EcoDiesel would never be in the JL?

There have been V8 Wranglers from FCA, pretty much every year at the Easter Safari, so obviously even they are just as interested in putting V8s into Wranglers as we are. We’ll stop askin for them when FCA stops putting them in Wranglers themselves.
 

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From a safety standpoint, a vehicle with a very high center of gravity, non-speed rated tall sidewall tires, and a suspension designed for off-roading is not a good candidate for a highly tuned V8.
True the 700BHP makes little sense from a safety standpoint... on any vehicle. Putting it even in a Callenger/Charger doesn’t make it safer, so that argument is a bit of a palaver no matter what you mate it to. Similarly using safety as a primary motivation for FCA ignores not only the Demon, but the slow pace to add side-airbags and rear cameras on the JK untilmthey were essentially forced to with the JL.

[quite]Yes FCA has the high output V8s in the lineup, but most of those vehicles come with wide speed rated tires and performance tuned suspensions. The Pentastar versions of the GC, Charger and Challenger easily outsell the SRT or Hellcat models.[/quote]

No one is expecting it to outsell whatever smaller engine FCA puts in their base, but that also doesn’t counter its utility. If FCA knocked a few thousand dollar off the JL base by putting a 2.4L naturally aspirated 4cylinder as their entry level engine, it would likely outsell the Pentastar and turbo, but that woukdn’t make it a more appropriate engine for the Wrangler.


CAFE is slowly killing off the big V8s even with fuel saving technology.
And yet in the last 4 years we’ve seen more introductions in the V8 lineup from FCA than any other category. Interesting how CAFE doesn’t seem to affect the Hellcats, Hawks and Demons, but would cause the Wrangler and FCA irreparable harm if they ever decide to out a logical 5.7L V8 in there instead of a race engine in a grocery-getter Grand Cherokee.

Whatever the arguments about sales, safety and CAFE are for the 5.7L in the Wrangler they are many times more applicable to those unnatural male enhacement models elsewhere in FCA’s lineup.
 
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From a safety standpoint, a vehicle with a very high center of gravity, non-speed rated tall sidewall tires, and a suspension designed for off-roading is not a good candidate for a highly tuned V8.
Why assume that a V8 Wrangler will only have an engine swap with no other supporting changes/options added? Electronic speed limits, big brakes and if necessary, different factory tires are all easily and commonly done in vehicles with more power.

I don't mind if the ECU limits the speed down to 80mph but for anything below a V8 option that is a step up from the Pentastar will make the Wrangler more desirable.

Also, just google what a Mercedes G63/G65, Discovery SVX, etc. is. They seem not to fall apart ;)
 
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Poll should have included a more realistic 5.7L Hemi. Probably would be a perfect amount if power for the Unlimited version.
In hindsight I should have added that as well but, as I said, the 5.7 has been long dead in many international markets.
 

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You could have said the same thing about a diesel engine.
Except, no, because there's always been a diesel Wrangler, just not here.

Apples to oranges.
 

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