Will you work on your JT?

[Trickster]

So....
Other than simple maintenance, and easy mods, will you be able to work on your JT?
Where I am going with this is, with all the electronic gadgetry now on vehicles, are you capable once warranty has expired, able to other things other than oil and filters?
I know I am not, I don't have much savvy when it comes to modern electronics.
How much less expensive would the JT be if it was less modern like a CJ.
On my WK2, it's has so many really useless gadgets, it concerns me when the warranty expires and they do too.
I know, I bought it knowing that, but still....
My wife (service manager at Jeep) comes home daily to "freak" me out on what it
cost her clients to repair their vehicles.
8.4 radio/nav screen and its guts....$2500 for the part!
Transmissions....$5000+
The price we pay for modern technology I guess, but nothing is bullet proof.
Rant is over,

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[Tortooga Custom Works]

So....
Other than simple maintenance, and easy mods, will you be able to work on your JT?
Where I am going with this is, with all the electronic gadgetry now on vehicles, are you capable once warranty has expired, able to other things other than oil and filters?
I know I am not, I don't have much savvy when it comes to modern electronics.
How much less expensive would the JT be if it was less modern like a CJ.
On my WK2, it's has so many really useless gadgets, it concerns me when the warranty expires and they do too.
I know, I bought it knowing that, but still....
My wife (service manager at Jeep) comes home daily to "freak" me out on what it
cost her clients to repair their vehicles.
8.4 radio/nav screen and its guts....$2500 for the part!
Transmissions....$5000+
The price we pay for modern technology I guess, but nothing is bullet proof.
Rant is over,

I plan to...

 

[Oilburner]

I don’t see how even the Jeep techs work on the new stuff - beyond simple things like sensors/alt/water pump/hoses, there’s so much tech under the hood I don’t want to touch it. And I love to work on stuff, guess I’ll have to keep all my old iron around

 

[Renegade]

I’m hoping I won’t have to work on it (except for modifications of course)...

 

[WranglerWillys]

The JT is incredible easy to work on, minus the normal 3.6 headaches.

 

[Trickster]

The JT is incredible easy to work on, minus the normal 3.6 headaches.

Please enlighten me on the "normal headaches".

 

[5JeepsAz]

So....
Other than simple maintenance, and easy mods, will you be able to work on your JT?
Where I am going with this is, with all the electronic gadgetry now on vehicles, are you capable once warranty has expired, able to other things other than oil and filters?
I know I am not, I don't have much savvy when it comes to modern electronics.
How much less expensive would the JT be if it was less modern like a CJ.
On my WK2, it's has so many really useless gadgets, it concerns me when the warranty expires and they do too.
I know, I bought it knowing that, but still....
My wife (service manager at Jeep) comes home daily to "freak" me out on what it
cost her clients to repair their vehicles.
8.4 radio/nav screen and its guts....$2500 for the part!
Transmissions....$5000+
The price we pay for modern technology I guess, but nothing is bullet proof.
Rant is over,

How could anyone work on this without replacing something! Wonderbar!

 

[Trickster]

The JT is incredible easy to work on, minus the normal 3.6 headaches.

Depends on your abilities.....even Mopar techs have to go to the company online website for
help on the ever changing technology the mfg keeps coming out with.

 

[WranglerWillys]

Please enlighten me on the "normal headaches".

You have to remove the intake to do anything.

 

[steffen707]

How could anyone work on this without replacing something! Wonderbar!

Well you got the right tool for the job. If you can't fix it with the JT multi-tool....................that's what i always say.

 

[5JeepsAz]

Well you got the right tool for the job. If you can't fix it with the JT multi-tool....................that's what i always say.

That thing was packed in there. I'm worried about overheating. Probably not without towing, but it needs to be able to breathe

 

[12BNNT]

Spent years as a mechanic after two years of votech. Aging myself but that was years ago when obd connections were becoming the norm. Since then all the electronics have gotten more and more advanced. Any more, you don’t hook up an amp meter and scope the engine yourself to figure out if the points are fouled or need gapped or anything else. You plug a computer into the obd port and it tells you what’s running right and what’s not. The tough (and expensive) part is cars used to be big enough with enough space between the engine and fender to have plenty of room to work in there. (I remember standing in the engine compartment of a full size K10 blazer with my feet on the ground while changing a head gasket) now a days you pretty much have to pull the motor for anything other than basic top end work.

 

[TXMaybeJT]

Spent years as a mechanic after two years of votech. Aging myself but that was years ago when obd connections were becoming the norm. Since then all the electronics have gotten more and more advanced. Any more, you don’t hook up an amp meter and scope the engine yourself to figure out if the points are fouled or need gapped or anything else. You plug a computer into the obd port and it tells you what’s running right and what’s not. The tough (and expensive) part is cars used to be big enough with enough space between the engine and fender to have plenty of room to work in there. (I remember standing in the engine compartment of a full size K10 blazer with my feet on the ground while changing a head gasket) now a days you pretty much have to pull the motor for anything other than basic top end work.

For real. I've never been a true mechanic, but I've owned a few vehicles and done a significant amount of work myself. Started with a Scion tC, and even putting a cold-air intake in or changing headlight bulbs was a pain! I had a 79 Bronco for awhile with the 351M, and I remember climbing into the engine bay, sitting on the fender to change valve cover gaskets. Then my 2010 F-150 was somewhere in between. Roomy, but even changing oil was an adventure.

 

[WXman]

So....
Other than simple maintenance, and easy mods, will you be able to work on your JT?
Where I am going with this is, with all the electronic gadgetry now on vehicles, are you capable once warranty has expired, able to other things other than oil and filters?
I know I am not, I don't have much savvy when it comes to modern electronics.
How much less expensive would the JT be if it was less modern like a CJ.
On my WK2, it's has so many really useless gadgets, it concerns me when the warranty expires and they do too.
I know, I bought it knowing that, but still....
My wife (service manager at Jeep) comes home daily to "freak" me out on what it
cost her clients to repair their vehicles.
8.4 radio/nav screen and its guts....$2500 for the part!
Transmissions....$5000+
The price we pay for modern technology I guess, but nothing is bullet proof.
Rant is over,

Well, the first point I'd make is that the list price on a 850RE trans is about $3k, so if a dealer is charging a $2k premium that's a big problem. The radios can be bought online for $1k. Yes, these prices are still very high but if you don't go through a stealership you can save a wad of cash.

In my experience, the electronics are the only expensive part. For example, my ESS feature died in October. It was November before I realized it was an actual problem. Jeep sat at the dealer for two weeks while they tried to diagnose it. Could I afford to have paid that labor out of warranty? Nope.

But, mechanically the JT/JL is still stone age simple and anyone can work on them with basic mechanical knowledge. That's actually one of the big draws to this vehicle for me. I can work on it easily.

 

[5JeepsAz]

Spent years as a mechanic after two years of votech. Aging myself but that was years ago when obd connections were becoming the norm. Since then all the electronics have gotten more and more advanced. Any more, you don’t hook up an amp meter and scope the engine yourself to figure out if the points are fouled or need gapped or anything else. You plug a computer into the obd port and it tells you what’s running right and what’s not. The tough (and expensive) part is cars used to be big enough with enough space between the engine and fender to have plenty of room to work in there. (I remember standing in the engine compartment of a full size K10 blazer with my feet on the ground while changing a head gasket) now a days you pretty much have to pull the motor for anything other than basic top end work.

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