Why Am I "Killing Myself" Then?

[Rahneld]

As we all know, there are FCA "rules," and then there are FCA rules.

Remove the back soft windows when the soft top's in Sunrider position--that's more like a recommendation among us (until we litigate FCA, then they say it's a rule.)

Get things serviced for safety and life of the vehicle: that stuff we follow.

I say this because I've heard it taboo to keep the soft top on in the rig with the hard top on, even with the soft top folded down. Even in the JK this was the case.

This suggests it's doable:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...ed-soft-top-under-hard-top.36469/#post-822470

Where's the part I'm missing? Why double struggle to take the soft top into the garage and the hard top out (or vice versa) come time in the season to swap the two?

Thanks.

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[word302]

You can do whatever you want. You're likely going to damage the soft top over time as noted in the thread you linked. Nevermind that the soft top takes up a stupid amount of room filed under the hard top. It would just piss me off every time I went to put something in the back.

 

[BXFXJeep]

Even in the TJ they said soft top should not be in place with the hard top installed, cannot remember as far back as the YJ

My bet is that in an accident things can go horribly wrong, getting stabbed with soft top hardware, or getting trapped etc, better safe than sorry.

 

[wibornz]

Not sure how the soft top and hard top can be on at the same time when the soft top sits higher in the roof line and there is a bracket that goes on the rear corner for the soft top that makes it so the hard top can not down on the body of the Jeep.

 

[Rosco P]

Not sure how the soft top and hard top can be on at the same time when the soft top sits higher in the roof line and there is a bracket that goes on the rear corner for the soft top that makes it so the hard top can not down on the body of the Jeep.

Soft top folded down....lol

 

[wibornz]

Soft top folded down....lol

So, one would tolerate the soft top being in the way all the time so they did not have to remove like ten bolts that can be done in less than a minute with a 1/4 impact driver? Fuck and I thought I was lazy. lol that funny.

 

[ZEN357]

I always took my soft top off when my hard top was on.

 

[cjaama]

So, one would tolerate the soft top being in the way all the time so they did not have to remove like ten bolts that can be done in less than a minute with a 1/4 impact driver? Fuck and I thought I was lazy. lol that funny.

I think you missed the point again. You can't avoid removing any bolts. All hardware needs to still come off, except the rear brackets the soft top actually attaches to. He's saying it's easier to leave the soft top folded in the vehicle than pull it out and store it in the garage.
I do however, agree that it's pointless and lazy in spirit. You still remove the door frames and store them along with the rear bar and windows. In addition, you will now have to put the protective cover on the soft top with it in place (no way that will be as easy as it would be with it standing upright outside the vehicle), gingerly place the hard top on without setting it on the soft top, mount the rear bolts while working around the soft top, install the electric and pisser fluid connections while working around the soft top... and any time you go to put something in the trunk you will have the soft top sitting there in the way.
I see absolutely no reason to do this and save yourself 30 seconds unless you don't have garage space to keep the soft top.

 

[TimmH]

I think you missed the point again. You can't avoid removing any bolts. All hardware needs to still come off, except the rear brackets the soft top actually attaches to. He's saying it's easier to leave the soft top folded in the vehicle than pull it out and store it in the garage.
I do however, agree that it's pointless and lazy in spirit. You still remove the door frames and store them along with the rear bar and windows. In addition, you will now have to put the protective cover on the soft top with it in place (no way that will be as easy as it would be with it standing upright outside the vehicle), gingerly place the hard top on without setting it on the soft top, mount the rear bolts while working around the soft top, install the electric and pisser fluid connections while working around the soft top... and any time you go to put something in the trunk you will have the soft top sitting there in the way.
I see absolutely no reason to do this and save yourself 30 seconds unless you don't have garage space to keep the soft top.

The red text, begs the question. If you don't have room for the soft top, where do they store the hard top when using the soft top?

 

[cjaama]

The red text, begs the question. If you don't have room for the soft top, where do they store the hard top when using the soft top?

Under the soft top of course!

 

[BXFXJeep]

The red text, begs the question. If you don't have room for the soft top, where do they store the hard top when using the soft top?

I used to be in this situation, I lived in condos most of my Wrangler life, hard top is stored in the parking spot covered, soft top is installed, get endless letters from condo management/board the 4 months the hard top is stored in the parking spot, now leaving the soft top in the parking spot isn't an option, parts walk away, even more letters, so I store it in the locker, some people store it under the bed etc, but that is if you have those options.

 

[cjaama]

I’ve heard nothing but nightmare stories about condos. They definitely aren’t gear-head friendly.

 

[BXFXJeep]

I’ve heard nothing but nightmare stories about condos. They definitely aren’t gear-head friendly.

Condos can be a pain with their rules, hard top in parking spot a problem, people using the underground garage as a toilet for their dogs, not a problem.

There are some companies that store hard top/ soft top they will do the swap on site or come to you and do the swap.

https://hardtopdrop.com/services/ about $400CAD

 

[TaxPhan]

If I don't take the soft top off, how is this gal going to get in easily?

 

[Rahneld]

Condos can be a pain with their rules, hard top in parking spot a problem, people using the underground garage as a toilet for their dogs, not a problem.

There are some companies that store hard top/ soft top they will do the swap on site or come to you and do the swap.

https://hardtopdrop.com/services/ about $400CAD

Of course the following solution begs the question, "where on the condo grounds will I be able to do this project" but there's always the genius of J. Scherb's modularization of the hardtop, whose benefits include that when not in use the hard top lies near flat like a pancake:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...jeep-and-rear-hartop.36552/page-2#post-826721

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