True, I have mad respect for many of the 4dr crew around here and so many have helped me along the way. Sure I'm all in for the 2dr but if my situation were different and needed more room I'd hit that 4dr, and hit it hard!
More importantly, some of the most avid Jeepers, off-roaders I know are women, and often mothers, and for all I know will drive their children to school events. Fuck the implicit misogyny.
I give the 2dr "purists" a hard time, and correct the "4drs are only better at non-offroad things" guys, but bottom line both are awesome off road and miles ahead of anything else available. The shortcomings of the swb are real, but I exaggerate them for arguments sake. I'll be the first to admit that breakover angle, especially stock, is an issue for the 4dr. In the first year of owning it and wheeling it stock we only got high centered once, but it felt like it was dragging the belly constantly. Is it so much of a problem that it prevents you from making it on tough trails? No. Just like the 2dr isn't going to tip over if it sees a hill. Are there ledges that will cause a 2dr to roll where a 4dr can climb? Absolutely. Are their obstacles that will leave a 4dr high centered where a 2dr will cruise right through? Absolutely. Are both of those obstacles likely to deny literally every other stock vehicle out there? Of course they are. I clearly prefer the 4dr both on and off road, but if there were no 4dr wrangler I'd still be wheeling in a wrangler. Granted I'd want to comp cut it in the back and stretch the wheel base to 105-110", but that's just me (and most of the yj/tj guys wheeling out here before the LJ became a thing). I don't even bother with the mysoginists anymore, they aren't smart enough to understand. My wife daily drives a jlur on 37's and has wheeled most of the major trails in the western United States. She's wheeled through the Rubicon at least a half dozen times, been through rally school, and can out drive most people on this planet. If you think your dangly bits make you a better driver (or better in any way), feel free to do us all a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool.
Let's throw in some racist and/or homophobic "one-liners" and expect a pass while we are at it. Come on don't be sensitive. They are just jokes right? At least behind the keyboard you won't get punched in the mouth for it.
Yes Zach!! I loathe the trolling posts and I call them out. It's one thing to joke. I admit I confuse trolling with joking sometimes.
I haul 12ft lumber with my 2dr JL , the back window opens pretty easy, its a soft top flap. You can also strap it to the rollbar. The length hasn't been a problem yet. Occasionally I do take out the seat to haul something bulky.
Me, my wife, my 3 year old, and my 12 year old fit in the 2 dr just fine lol. Most days it's me and the 3 year old in his car seat.
I also have mad respect for 4 door owners.
