Who else besides me got eTorque and didn't know what they bought?

[Ratiogear]

That was a pretty concise video.

Now make one explaining to no_IFS that adding laughing emojis doesn't make his posts witty or funny.

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[dgoodhue]

Make E Torque optional like leather. See if the sales warrant its existence.

As of the May 2021 order guide, One can now order the 3.6 V6 automatic with the etorque or without etorque on most models. Etorque is a $750 option. Etorque is required with the 3.6 on the Rubicon.

 

[dgoodhue]

It Does have 2. It has a 12v alternator and what FCA is calling a 48v starter/generator. Is the second one a generator or an alternator? Don't know, haven't had one apart or seen the schematic.

Where is the 12V alternator installed? The etorque generator is installed where the alternator was installed in 3.6 ESS versions. I see and AC and power steering pumps, no other alternators. My built sheet says alternator delete. If I have to guess it has a 48V to 12V converter.

 

[Spearmin]

I'm 60 and have always driven 4x4 trucks. Toyota for the last 20 years and Chevys before that. Never considered a Jeep and the Wrangler was an impulse buy. Mostly because my 17 year old daughter convinced us we should get one cause the're cool and will be a lot of fun.

So we were looking at them and I asked the sales guy about the VVT eTorque upgrade and what is was. He said variable value timing. Now I know what that is so I'm thinking to myself I can't believe the base 3.6 doesn't have VVT. I know I want VVT and the 8 speed.

It wasn't until after I got the Wrangler and did some research that I realized what eTorque was. I felt like a noob but I was glad I got it.

To Be honest I still have no idea what ETourq is and I have it (would be nice if someone could explain it). I know the engine sounds way different from my 2019 JLU. 2019 sounds smooth and quiet compared to my 2021, which sounds diesel-ish an noisy. Noticed this instantly as early last night, when I hopped into the 2019 to park it into the garage.

 

[Pegleg]

Where is the 12V alternator installed? The etorque generator is installed where the alternator was installed in 3.6 ESS versions. I see and AC and power steering pumps, no other alternators. My built sheet says alternator delete. If I have to guess it has a 48V to 12V converter.

I also poked around under the hood and could not find a conventional alternator. Of course there is so much junk under the hood I very well could have missed it but I don't think so.

 

[Wbino]

*HEALTHBARCODE's post(page3) explains the system gentlemen.

 

[Xcoaste]

For those who haven't seen it yet, this is a great explanation of what eTorque is, how it works, and what it does. As a former engine design engineer, it's pretty interesting tech IMO.

Make this a sticky...

 

[csjlu]

One has huge dealer mark ups the other has huge incentives. that tells you everything if your eyes are open.

I was not aware of dealer incentives on the 4xe. How much are they? And for how much longer do they run?

 

[TheRaven]

No need to worry about eTorque or ESS "out of warranty". The JL is going to be far too expensive to own much beyond the warranty period. Those systems will be the least of your concerns on a 100k mile JL.

 

[ITGuy]

You can make the ESS amazingly smooth with a tazer by turning it off, I hardly even notice it’s there.

 

[MrMischief]

FCA can do Super Bowl ads like no one else.

I dunno.... that Bruce Springsteen ad seemed to belly flop.

 

[Wbino]

I dunno.... that Bruce Springsteen ad seemed to belly flop.

Bored Park Police @ Sandy Hook.

 

[csjlu]

I dunno.... that Bruce Springsteen ad seemed to belly flop.

I cannot remember any other ad that ran during the SB, to be honest. I remember it causing some controversy, but I forgot what it was. May have to re-watch it now.

 

[csjlu]

Bored Park Police @ Sandy Hook.

That I remember. BAC equivalent 75% below the legal limit..and the Boss no less.

 

[MrMischief]

I cannot remember any other ad that ran during the SB, to be honest. I remember it causing some controversy, but I forgot what it was. May have to re-watch it now.

Don't want to turn this political but as I recall people from both major parties had complaints about the ad for some reason. Also shortly after the ad aired it was revealed that Bruce had DUI and reckless driving charges pending which triggered a whole other group. Those charges were dropped after he took a plea deal to consuming alcohol in a restricted area (apparently he was riding his motorcycle in a park when he stopped to take a pic with some fans then did a shot with them).

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