I’m not sure if this is the appropriate forum, or even if there IS an appropriate forum for this discussion, but I’m soliciting advice on where we ought to move to find a decent outdoor lifestyle at moderate cost. I like to hunt and fish, we’d prefer to have some land around us, and we need to have access to decent medical/dental/services. Also, I don’t think I could live in a place that was completely flat and, though I don’t care terribly about politics, I appreciate traditional American values, so I’d like to live where flying the American flag won’t invite vandalism. Oregon used to meet all of these criteria in most places, but we were a big state with a small population back then. Over the last forty years, and especially the last twenty, we’ve been completely overrun by urban refugees from other states who effectively transplanted all the problems they claim to have fled. Portland is over twice the size it was when I was 18, and the northwest charm and distinction have been mostly erased. Today I understand that less than one in three Oregon residents is from Oregon, and the imbalance is accelerating rapidly. Oregonians are all but irrelevant to Oregon politics and communities, and our state has become a caricature of the worst characteristics of California, on steroids, without the great balancing characteristics of California or the economic vitality to sustain it. Now we’ve got riots, traffic jambs, poor fishing and hunting, and very expensive real estate... So where should we retire?