When to do my first oil change?

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If you can check your oil, you can change your oil. It’s that easy on the wrangler. Change it yourself and save yourself the hassle.
Based on people’s dealer reports of botched oil changes It appears that the JL oil change is much easier than checking the level. LOL. The dealer techs have no trouble changing the oil but they lack the skill to check the oil level.
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Bumping this older thread. Honestly do not understand the level of incompetence dealers and techs have these days. Here’s my story today:

First Jeep dealer, work up early since there are no appointments on Saturdays. Arrive with 5 five ahead of me. Stood there for 15 mins, not one person greeted us. Approached a SA and politely mentioned we were out there and he said sorry we will be right with you. Fair enough. Guy behind me walks in and two minutes later walks out with SA!!! SA says to me give us a few minutes and we will get you right in. I replied, no actually you won’t I’m out. Apparently you and this guy don’t understand the concept of a line.

Drove to second dealer, super nice people got me in the bay in under 10 mins. Oil change done in about 15-20. Perfect! So I thought. Get RO and says 6 qts! ‍♂♂♂ Mention the JL takes 5 not 6 and the SA said it’s always written up that way on the RO for all Wranglers. Questioning everything at this point, go to get in my Jeep and there’s oil all over my leather seats. Trying to remain calm and understand techs get dirty, I asked for a rag to clean my seat. SA says no problem let me take a look. Meets me at the Jeep with Super Degreaser which I replied No, you’re not using that on my seats. I ended up cleaning it off myself but not completely. I checked the oil once I got home and it seems to be filled correctly but I’ll check it again once it say. I have a feeling it’s overfillled and won’t get benefit of the doubt just yet.

@JeepCares I was also told there were no TSBs for dead spot in steering and that it was normal. I also want to make sure in case these spots don’t come out all the way, there’s record of it. So that’s two dealers down out of three in my immediate area.

If anyone can suggest a good dealer in Ft Lauderdale area I’d greatly appreciate it. Joey Accardi and Massey Yardley are out for me at this point.

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I also was overfilled, took it back and had some taken out. But as for your seats they definitely need to make it right and then some!
 

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It’s complete incompetence on multiple levels. who would do an oil change and not check the oil level when finished ? Just as incompetent our vehicle owners who never check their own oil. It should be common sense routine on any kind of gas motor maintenance whether it be a lawn mower, tree trimmer, or car. check the oil periodically like the manual states. All these oil change problems could be solved immediately if the dealer technician checked the oil or the vehicle owner checked the oil both very simple very common sense things to do after an oil change which are not happening. Very scary. And it appears the vehicle owners feel they have zero responsibility to check their own oil.
A simple , no cost, oil level check after a service from all the party’s involved and all problems stop immediately.
Absolutely right. But the Jeep has been running for 15 mins when I left and had to get to work. While it’s annoying to have to go back, it needed to sit for a few mins to get a proper oil level check. My father has ran fixed operations at dealerships for 30 yrs. Its called a QC process. Every car that goes out gets a once over to ensure it’s correct. When I went back, the SA, techs and even parts department didn’t know the JL takes 5 quarts. They verified it does and all came to talk to me saying they had no idea and I was right. So while I do take responsibility for checking the oil, I shouldn’t HAVE TO!!! I took it to a Jeep dealership who should know what they’re doing, but don’t. So, knowing they probably overfilled, I checked it after adequate time.

If you can check your oil, you can change your oil. It’s that easy on the wrangler. Change it yourself and save yourself the hassle.
This is the route I’m going from now on. I have four free oil changes but to have to worry about this type of shit, the time and cost to do it myself and know it’s done correctly, is worth it.
 

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Bumping this older thread. Honestly do not understand the level of incompetence dealers and techs have these days. Here’s my story today:

First Jeep dealer, work up early since there are no appointments on Saturdays. Arrive with 5 five ahead of me. Stood there for 15 mins, not one person greeted us. Approached a SA and politely mentioned we were out there and he said sorry we will be right with you. Fair enough. Guy behind me walks in and two minutes later walks out with SA!!! SA says to me give us a few minutes and we will get you right in. I replied, no actually you won’t I’m out. Apparently you and this guy don’t understand the concept of a line.

Drove to second dealer, super nice people got me in the bay in under 10 mins. Oil change done in about 15-20. Perfect! So I thought. Get RO and says 6 qts! ‍♂♂♂ Mention the JL takes 5 not 6 and the SA said it’s always written up that way on the RO for all Wranglers. Questioning everything at this point, go to get in my Jeep and there’s oil all over my leather seats. Trying to remain calm and understand techs get dirty, I asked for a rag to clean my seat. SA says no problem let me take a look. Meets me at the Jeep with Super Degreaser which I replied No, you’re not using that on my seats. I ended up cleaning it off myself but not completely. I checked the oil once I got home and it seems to be filled correctly but I’ll check it again once it say. I have a feeling it’s overfillled and won’t get benefit of the doubt just yet.

@JeepCares I was also told there were no TSBs for dead spot in steering and that it was normal. I also want to make sure in case these spots don’t come out all the way, there’s record of it. So that’s two dealers down out of three in my immediate area.

If anyone can suggest a good dealer in Ft Lauderdale area I’d greatly appreciate it. Joey Accardi and Massey Yardley are out for me at this point.

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Back at the dealer, they overfilled it. Remaining calm and patient, just frustrated to say the least despite my mentioning before and after the service and was assured is was done properly.
Hi Andrew05LJR,
We're sorry to hear about the experiences you have had with these dealers. You may send us a private message and we will gladly have these experiences documented in our system.
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Frank posted pages copied directly from the owner's manual, provided by FCA/Jeep in the glove compartment of every new vehicle. The service intervals are charted in the manual, too, and in the vehicle's info center diagnostics (oil life remaining). Oh, and the oil type information is imprinted on the oil fill cap in the engine compartment. Just because you're too damn lazy to read it is no excuse to get your panties in a wad.
Not my 2020 Wrangler manual. No oil change intervals listed.
 

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Not my 2020 Wrangler manual. No oil change intervals listed.
My 2019 Manual has no specific oil change mileage listed either, except for Severe Duty which is 4,000 miles. For the rest of us it's strictly based on the Oil Life gauge on the cluster, I always change my full synthetic oil at 6k miles regardless of that gauge.

Based on that gauge reading I'm due for changes in the 7500 mile range give or take. Oil is so cheap that changing it a bit early is no biggie, and all my Oil Change Analysis charts for my past V6 vehicles following this schedule have been very good.
 
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