What Would the Bronco Have to Do to Win You Over

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You are correct for the M38 but Ford DID build them. Now in 1951 Ford was awarded a contract to make a replacement version/update (independent susto the ‘JEEP’ known as the the M151 which they made from 1959-1988. So any ‘Jeep’ you seen from the ‘modern era’ are all Fords.
And Kaiser and AM General
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They used the Willys patented design. They didn't design it. They simply made clones. We needed so many, one manufacturer would never had been able to supply the amount of "jeeps" the military needed.
Right back at ya but change Willy’s to Ford!
 

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Looks, Price, Performance, Quality . Convertible top, removable doors, priced mid 20s for a 2 door ,base entry level,( including wheels). Warranty, Bumper to Bumper, 6 years, 75,000 miles, drive train ,8 years, 100,000 miles .
Ford has a long long way to go, in my opinion, but I welcome competition, it will improve the product, give choice and value to the genre.
 

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I could tell you, but then....
Design and features similar to my Raptor...

Won’t take much.
 

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Ok to answer the question for real:

Wider than the JL. One thing I’ve learned from off-roading the HMMWV all over creation is the value of width. It makes the HMMWV more stable than my JLR, at the cost of making it harder to park and harder to fit in tight places. I’m not saying the Bronco should be as wide as a HMMWV but somewhere between it and the JL would be nice.

A V8.

Manual transmission.

Two doors.

Wheelbase shorter than a JLU but longer than a JL.

Removable top (soft) and doors.

All the off-road goodies of the JLR, and preferably more.

Solid front axle -or- beefy, off-road-worthy IFS (portal axles maybe?)

Under $40k, which is what I paid for my JLR.

Chances of it hitting all these points? Zero, especially under $40k with a V8, so I’m not worried about being tempted to switch. We’ll see though.
 

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Ok to answer the question for real:

Wider than the JL. One thing I’ve learned from off-roading the HMMWV all over creation is the value of width. It makes the HMMWV more stable than my JLR, at the cost of making it harder to park and harder to fit in tight places. I’m not saying the Bronco should be as wide as a HMMWV but somewhere between it and the JL would be nice.

A V8.

Manual transmission.

Two doors.

Wheelbase shorter than a JLU but longer than a JL.

Removable top (soft) and doors.

All the off-road goodies of the JLR, and preferably more.

Solid front axle -or- beefy, off-road-worthy IFS (portal axles maybe?)

Under $40k, which is what I paid for my JLR.

Chances of it hitting all these points? Zero, especially under $40k with a V8, so I’m not worried about being tempted to switch. We’ll see though.
Omg I remember getting my HMMWV license in Germany and thinking holy crap this thing is huge:CWL:
 

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  • legitimately tow
  • Modular hardtop, preferably with some sort sunroof like function, I am think renegade like skytop/mysky
  • third row seat
  • 4x4 system with awd option, selectrac as an example
  • proven engine/trans. Would prefer diesel but would consider hybrid
  • Costs the same or less than the Jeep
  • With top removal it should be able to be used like a truck, think first generation 4runner or 90s bronco. Would be happy if I could fit a piece of plywood in there occasionally even if it hangs out the back/needs some sort of extender.
  • Not a must have, but a tailgate that can fold down or open up like current Jeep, like Ridgeline.
 

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Mine is similar to many,
  • No death wobble so I can be comfortable taking it on cross-country road trips with the family
  • Can tow a little more, like 5000 lbs
  • Retro exterior styling - I want it to feel like it's so unique compared to contemporary vehicles that I must buy it.
  • Retro interior styling - I really like how the JL dash panels can easily being color matched to the body. I feel like color matched interior panels goes a long ways towards feeling retro, like when vehicles still had metal panels exposed on the interior.
  • Slightly larger 1st row cabin space. I'd like to have a water bottle and a cup of coffee at the same time the wife does.
  • It is mandatory that it has a removable top, preferably multi-piece modular sectional that can store in the vehicle.
  • And as a bonus, like JDaPP said, "With top removal it should be able to be used like a truck, think first generation 4runner or 90s bronco. Would be happy if I could fit a piece of plywood in there occasionally even if it hangs out the back/needs some sort of extender."
Oh, and of course, a smaller key fob.
 

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My dad was a Ford guy. I learned to drive in a Gran Torino with a hurst 4 speed, holly 4 barrell carb, cleveland 351 engine and a positrac rear.

It was all a 17 year old skinny H.S. kid could do to press the clutch in let alone keep the car in a straight line when I mashed the gas pedal harder then I should. What a beast.

I bought a new Escort when I graduated from college. My next car was a Bronco II. Then an Aerostar (majorly under-powered vehicle ever) when Mrs. Fly started popping out kidlets (still trying to figure how she did that! :) ) then upgraded the Areostar to a full conversion Econoline van when the kidlets got bigger. The Econoline would totally thrash the brakes and rotors at 20K miles. Worst brake system I have ever encountered. I had to doublefoot a panic stop because a big buck jumped out in front of the van. I had the whole family with me in the van and it still took a ways to stop. I wasn't moving fast either. Maybe 40. That was the last time I tolerated that. I went immediately to GMC and bought a Yukon Denali XL. That car has awesome brakes. Drove the Denali for 16 years and 273K miles until I decided to get the Wrangler. The Denali is/was great!

I've owned VW, Volvo, and now an Italian 4X4. Never had a lick of problem with any of those cars. The GM was great also.

Ford would have to offer LIFE warranty end to end, top to bottom, side to side, and prove that they have overcome their engineering deficiencies to ever get me to turn my head when one drives by in interest. They've pretty much lost me even thought I'm a 'Stang whore and would even go into debt to own a Shelby.
 
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