And my wife appreciates all three of those things, but she wanted more of an all or nothing approach. Top on, minimize road sounds. Top off, no doors no problem.
As I've said, the Rubicon and 2-door sales numbers don't matter. The image does. The Rubicon and the 2-door support the tie to the heritage, they're not going away anytime soon, unless some short-sighted bean counter gets his/her way at Jeep.
I'm not sure where you think I said that Jeep should sell only Rubicons, or only 2-doors, or only solid front axles for that matter. But even if they did, the Wrangler would still be alive and popular, just maybe not wildly so, as it is now.
Perhaps true, but if they had given it all the features it needed to go head-to-head with the Wrangler, they might have really had something.
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Ok. Agree to disagree. Good luck with your JL!As I've said, the Rubicon and 2-door sales numbers don't matter. The image does. The Rubicon and the 2-door support the tie to the heritage, they're not going away anytime soon, unless some short-sighted bean counter gets his/her way at Jeep.
I'm not sure where you think I said that Jeep should sell only Rubicons, or only 2-doors, or only solid front axles for that matter. But even if they did, the Wrangler would still be alive and popular, just maybe not wildly so, as it is now.
Perhaps true, but if they had given it all the features it needed to go head-to-head with the Wrangler, they might have really had something.
I'm sure glad you're not in charge at Jeep headquarters. As witnessed by the recent record sales, the "stick to the heritage" strategy has worked wonders for the Wrangler to date. Unlike most car models, the Wrangler has a cult following that helps drive sales through good times and bad. Lose that following by paying attention to only the mass market, and you're toast.
Although I like where the Wrangler is now and, for the most part, where it seems to be headed, I would still like to see a true, head-to-head competition for the Rubicon, both to keep prices in check, and to assure that Jeep doesn't go soft on the Wrangler in its efforts to chase that mass market.
That looks great - has a little bit too much roof though.This guess from Road and Track about the Bronco certainly fits the part of a boxy off-roader. If this is more powerful than the Wrangler, has the hardware- disconnects and lockers, and the after-market responds as well the off-road market will start getting much more interesting.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-ca...we-think-the-2020-ford-bronco-will-look-like/
Even though you only say Jeep vs. Ford, somehow I still think it'd be Land Rover!Jeep vs. Ford, who will win for worse build quality?
Build quality is never the problem with Land Rover. It'll be extremely nice. It's sorry electronics that have hampered them but that has supposedly gotten a lot better. My fifteen year old land rovers interior still looks brand new
Impeccable build quality in mine, I've had no issues with anything on my Jeep so far.
100% its always been electronics on the LR. My buddies Range Rover was in the dealer a bunch for for the dumbest electrical issues all the time. Its on of the things that kept me from buying a LR3 and getting a JKUR instead.
If it looks like this they are going to sell a TON on looks alone.This guess from Road and Track about the Bronco certainly fits the part of a boxy off-roader. If this is more powerful than the Wrangler, has the hardware- disconnects and lockers, and the after-market responds as well the off-road market will start getting much more interesting.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-ca...we-think-the-2020-ford-bronco-will-look-like/
