What engine do you plan on getting?

[DanW]

Going with 2.0 turbo because pentastar is garage engine never buy again

Yeah, my Pentastar will be in the garage every night. So?

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[Snider1970]

Post why in the comments. I'm considering a diesel because I plan on making an overland build. I'm debating if the MPG/possible slight bump in reliability gains are really worth an expected 5k bump in price and more waiting though when I could just account for more fuel. What are you guys thinking?

I wanted a diesel too until I saw the problems the rams were having with that engine. Now if it was a Cummins r28 it would be a done deal.

 

[Vegas_Sirk]

I wanted a diesel too until I saw the problems the rams were having with that engine. Now if it was a Cummins r28 it would be a done deal.

The diesel is going to be Gen 2 version of it. So the problems your seeing on the Ram/GC forums will likely all be addressed.

 

[digitalbliss]

I'm holding out for the 3.0l in a 2 door Rubicon. hopefully available with the manual. I know, I know; I've read where it's only coming with the auto tranny and the JLU. Has there been any official word from FCA where this is a reality?

I wouldn't get too excited about the 2.0l turbo compared to the Pentastar. My wife's Mercedes '17 GLC300 4matic was just purchased with a 2.0l turbo with similar HP and torque as our outgoing GLK350 4matic V6. The V6 was hands down the better engine. The turbo is too high strung, not smooth. You need gradual power not instantaneous tire spinning mud slippery traction. Yes there will be traction control but when you're crawling over rocks you want smooth, even, easily applied torque. I guess the mall crawlers will be happy with the turbo.

What is that supposed to mean "that feels 1995"? I will be selecting the Pentastar if the diesel option for my requirements fall through.

Does any FCA vehicle that has the ecodiesel as an option, offer a manual transmission as an optional pairing as well? Ram 1500? Jeep GC?

 

[Billy]

Does any FCA vehicle that has the ecodiesel as an option, offer a manual transmission as an optional pairing as well? Ram 1500? Jeep GC?

Nope

 

[digitalbliss]

Nope

exactly

 

[Rubi]

260 lbs/ft of torque is very 1990s. Almost every six cylinder engine available was making that level of torque 20 years ago. The fact that after using the 3.8L V6 for 25 years, Jeep decided to replace it with one that only makes 20 lb/ft more is laughable.



Semantics.

My definition of wealthy is people who are in the upper class. The EcoDiesel Wranglers will cost most than the average annual salary of a U.S. worker, which means it'll only be accessible to the upper classes. The rich will be buying Mercedes G-Wagens.

Can you find or know of a non-turbo V6 currently produced anywhere that exceeds 260 lbs/ft torque, at a usable low rpm? The Pentastar’s valve train has been redesigned with variable valve timing creating improved torque at lower rpm’s. By the way you don’t make Ward’s 10 best engine award 3 years in a row for 1990’s technology.

 

[AZCrawl]

Can you find or know of a non-turbo V6 currently produced anywhere that exceeds 260 lbs/ft torque, at a usable low rpm? The Pentastar’s valve train has been redesigned with variable valve timing creating improved torque at lower rpm’s. Buy the way you don’t make Ward’s 10 best engine award 3 years in a row for 1990’s technology.

I only see it on the 2017 list.

 

[DanW]

Can you find or know of a non-turbo V6 currently produced anywhere that exceeds 260 lbs/ft torque, at a usable low rpm? The Pentastar’s valve train has been redesigned with variable valve timing creating improved torque at lower rpm’s. Buy the way you don’t make Ward’s 10 best engine award 3 years in a row for 1990’s technology.

...and 90% of peak torque available just about everywhere in the powerband. I think this is a great engine and I can't wait to get my hands on it.

 

[thenewrick]

I'm still hoping for a manual option with either turbo engine. Would prefer the diesel but the Hurricane would be fine too. I know it probably wont happen but can't hurt to hope!

 

[The Great Grape Ape]

I only see it on the 2017 list.

2011, 2012, 2013 for the old version of the engine, 2017 is for the updated Pacifica Hybrid version.

http://m.wardsauto.com/industry/chrysler-36l-dohc-pentastar-v-6

http://m.wardsauto.com/technology/2013-ward-s-10-best-engines-quick-hits

 

[DanW]

So it is interesting to see all the criticism of an engine that has had versions on the Wards list 4 times. Folks, this is a great engine, and I'm happy to finally get one into my garage. I've driven it in several Chrysler vehicles, and was impressed with it every time. I'm confident it will get me far off the beaten path and back in one piece with no drama.

 

[thenewrick]

I'd like to see a V8 in the lineup as well. Manual transmission option for everything. Choices and options are good.

 

[BillyHW]

2011, 2012, 2013 for the old version of the engine, 2017 is for the updated Pacifica Hybrid version.

http://m.wardsauto.com/industry/chrysler-36l-dohc-pentastar-v-6

http://m.wardsauto.com/technology/2013-ward-s-10-best-engines-quick-hits

That Ward's list seems to have gotten heavily biased in favour of turbos/hybrids/electrics in the last few years.

 

[The Great Grape Ape]

Oh , they even address that in 2014, specifically noting that Turbos made up a large portion of that year’s list.

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