What did you NOT KNOW about your Jeep until today?

[THAW]

That it's possible to select an app (i.e. Off-Road Pages) in Uconnect 4 while a lock is displayed for the app's icon.

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[Reinen]

I don't know about standard cruise, but adaptive will use the brakes to slow you down. That can be "bad" on long descents.

It does but it also enlists some help from the auto trans. It will downshift. However I do prefer to use manual shifting because I know what gear will be needed while it just knows what gear is needed. It doesn't do preemptive downshifting and kicks it in a little late.

 

[Ratbert]

It does but it also enlists some help from the auto trans. It will downshift. However I do prefer to use manual shifting because I know what gear will be needed while it just knows what gear is needed. It doesn't do preemptive downshifting and kicks it in a little late.

I never even thought about the implications until I drove my RS-5 to Taos just after buying it. It was my first vehicle with adaptive cruise. Completely warped the front rotors on that first trip descending from Colorado to New Mexico.

$4,800 to replace the pair of rotors. So no, I no longer use adaptive cruise when descending mountains.

 

[Reinen]

I never even thought about the implications until I drove my RS-5 to Taos just after buying it. It was my first vehicle with adaptive cruise. Completely warped the front rotors on that first trip descending from Colorado to New Mexico.

$4,800 to replace the pair of rotors. So no, I no longer use adaptive cruise when descending mountains.

I know what you mean. I live near the bottom of a 9 mile road that descends 1 mile in elevation. Some vehicles go by with brakes that reek so bad I can't believe they're not on fire.

But I still don't hesitate to use ACC when descending mountains in the JL. ACC does not disengage if you switch to manual shifting and downshift. It ends up applying the brakes a similar amount of the time as you would manually. It's the downshifting that's key, whether you manually brake or ACC brakes doesn't really matter. It's about the same.

The only time I don't use ACC is on steep windy roads, simply because ACC brakes by speed which doesn't necessarily match when the road wants you to brake.

 

[LDSSILLS]

I never even thought about the implications until I drove my RS-5 to Taos just after buying it. It was my first vehicle with adaptive cruise. Completely warped the front rotors on that first trip descending from Colorado to New Mexico.

$4,800 to replace the pair of rotors. So no, I no longer use adaptive cruise when descending mountains.

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[AcesandEights]

How much I would miss it.

 

[Aussicon]

That there is a slot for your cell phone between the cup holders.
Mind blown! Makes me want to reevaluate all the poor life decisions I’ve made so far, like buying cell phone mounts, staying for one more drink and chatting up that girl at the bar at 1 am after half a bottle of Wild Turkey etc. etc.

 

[Heimkehr]

That there is a slot for your cell phone between the cup holders. Mind blown!

That slot is intended to hold the key fob in a horizontal orientation, but your off-label use case makes sense.

 

[jc1003]

How the stock Sahara shocks suck compared to the Bilstein 5100.

 

[Cire]

Easy peasy to loose tools and stuff working on simple stuff. Here is my list for the week.

Fuse - pulled a fuse from spare holder. It put up a fight and eventually released and slipped through my fingers and tumbled down behind the fuse box.
Odds are 50:50 With a difficulty score of recovery 11

Jeep T30 tool - dropped windshield to clean and inspect sealing from unknown years of desert trails from previous owner. Tool slipped out of socket and dropped hard into brake release handle gape of rubber boot. Odds are 10000:1 Difficulty score of recovery 5

Wiper arm nut - During the removal of plastic cowel cover a wiper arm nut fell into the main cowel. I had placed them on each wiper post, but one had been rubbed against, just enough to unscrew a turn and drop down to who knows where. My fault on not securing it enough on the threads. So odds are not calculated. Difficultly score on recovery 11

Interior screw - Pulled 8.4 head unit for a cleaning and reseat internal and external connections. During install screw fell into front open area between 8.4 unit and electric window buttons. Odds are 4:1 and Difficultly on recovery 5

2nd interior screw - installing a mesh sun screen required 2 trim screws removed on overhead light console. Yep you guessed it! One fell between seat and console. Odds are 2:1 with a difficulty of recovery 7.

Get a magnetic tray. I bought the Milwaukee pack out tray and it put an end to my instances like these. Much less cussing is involved when working on the jeep now.

 

[dstevens]

I never even thought about the implications until I drove my RS-5 to Taos just after buying it. It was my first vehicle with adaptive cruise. Completely warped the front rotors on that first trip descending from Colorado to New Mexico.

$4,800 to replace the pair of rotors. So no, I no longer use adaptive cruise when descending mountains.

I'm late to the party ... but I drove a (borrowed) Bronco off road and found that the one pedal trail descent control thingy does the same thing. Smoked the brakes in about 2 miles of very mild downhill. Stupid computer is not smart enough to downshift - it just rides the brakes until a light comes on the dash telling you that it made a bad choice and has overheated things.

 

[Ratbert]

I'm late to the party ... but I drove a (borrowed) Bronco off road and found that the one pedal trail descent control thingy does the same thing. Smoked the brakes in about 2 miles of very mild downhill. Stupid computer is not smart enough to downshift - it just rides the brakes until a light comes on the dash telling you that it made a bad choice and has overheated things.

Smoked as in smoke coming off them? Holy shit.

 

[YBABRAT]

Get a magnetic tray. I bought the Milwaukee pack out tray and it put an end to my instances like these. Much less cussing is involved when working on the jeep now.

Ha! I have worked on many different makes and models through the years. Never needed a tray until the Jeep. I do admit, the 280z I once had seemed not as small inside and out, yet was smaller in work area. Even with a magnetic tray, the Jeep JL is designed to have areas that are black holes. Once something drops, it is destined to drop into an area you don't want it to. No tray is going to stop that from happening unless you have a third arm to assist.

 

[YBABRAT]

I never even thought about the implications until I drove my RS-5 to Taos just after buying it. It was my first vehicle with adaptive cruise. Completely warped the front rotors on that first trip descending from Colorado to New Mexico.

$4,800 to replace the pair of rotors. So no, I no longer use adaptive cruise when descending mountains.

ACC in the mountains?... I would never have thought of trying. I learned the first day of ownership ACC used brakes too much. Even when you think your coasting. I thought Jeep would have used an advanced duck mode for mountian driving, or at least with towing. This way transmission could stay in a lower gear range under decent for engine braking.

On the other side... I had a tricky issue with Honda grade logic kicking in when trying to coast on in town speeds. Hated to be out of overdrive gear when no reason to be. Found a hack in service manual to disable, so the issue was not so problematic.

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