UPR vs MISHIMOTO OIL Catch Can

[WhyUMad]

P.S. UPR needs to make a catch can setup for the 2.0T.

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[BrntWS6]

I’m sure Mishimoto is great quality, but UPR is the top forum recommended catch can for every vehicle I’ve owned & their product is of the highest quality IMO.

Never seen any mention of UPR on the LS1 boards, but thats good to know.

 

[TroyBoy]

I always thought the gas was injected behind the valves and thus wash them every time and buildup of junk on the valves was virtually non existent. Especially if your vehicle is well maintained and you follow the recommended oil changes.

 

[WhyUMad]

Never seen any mention of UPR on the LS1 boards, but thats good to know.

I guess it depends on the forum, but they have a great reputation on SVTPerformance (Ford), FRF (Ford Raptor Forum), & Hellcat.org.

Regardless, my first hand experience with their products sway me to use them again. I had a BWoody Performance catch can on my Hellcat & swapped to a dual UPR setup & also had a JLT Performance catch can on my Shelby & swapped to a dual UPR setup. Their build quality is much better, plus I feel that their catch can mounting/placement is the best placement (For instance, the Bwoody catch can on my hellcat was mounted directly over my supercharger & serpetine belts. What happens if there was a leak? UPR placed them further away & in areas that still had easy access with little worry of causing issues if there was a leak.)

 

[kkuntz01]

Last question: Would this VOID Warranty? / Need I remove catch can on every service? I bought the 100k warranty and I need to keep it 100% functional.

The only way it would create a warranty issue is if you had a problem that they tied back to the the installation of the catch can. Since all the catch can is doing it removing the oil vapor that would normally be passed through the intake to and burned up, it's not likely an issue will manifest itself from installing one.

Speaking for myself, I installed one on my JK years (had to do a custom install) ago and was happy with the results I got. It's not a miracle pill or anything, however it does help the engine perform better and burn cleaner.

From the time I installed it until I removed it (3.5yrs) I had zero carbon build up in my throttle body and the same goes for my tail pipe. Performance gain, where it pertains to fuel economy, I picked up maybe .5-1mpg. Again, not earth shattering, but it's better than when it was not installed.


This is just one example of what the catch can prevented from going into the engine on my 3.6L JK.

 

[SteadyC]

Few things from me. I couldn’t use the Mishimoto one, as I have my ARB compressor manifold there, so yes placement is important. Secondly, the hoses that come with the UPR are top notch. Don’t dismiss the quality of hoses that come with the catch can. the UPR hoses couldn’t be any better, tool-less on and off, internal rings, braided, swivel heads, etc. Anyway, the hoses should be part of your decision criteria.

For me, I empty mine every 500-1000 miles, and there is always oil from an inch to a bit more. I am happy that this gunk doesn’t go into my manifold. I don’t care what anyone says, that is the bottom line, and is enough proof.

I have buddies with 600-800 horsepower cars, and they all have them, they are required. For all the reasons that Joe said, those high end engines cost a lot, and they want the most power. Well, I want the same for my engine. Even if just a Pentastar.

 

[Billyraff]

i have one on my 2019 Ram 1500 5.7. The billet technologies catch can fills up about every 2500 miles. Worth it just knowing that the blow by isn't getting put right back in.

 

[BrntWS6]

Just put a UPR on the Jeep. 15min install so its an easy swap for trips to the dealer, great quality hoses as well. OEM hose was coated in oil with 1400 miles on the engine. Was hard to photo so i just dabbed a q-tip in the end.

 

[kkuntz01]

For those who are on the fence, this video has some good information and includes a little bit of science to boot.

 

[TroyBoy]

For those who are on the fence, this video has some good information and includes a little bit of science to boot.

Do they work is different from are they needed. At the beginning of the video he states carbon buildup is negligible on a non gdi engine like the 3.6L engine. Anyone know if the 2.0 turbo is direct injected?

 

[kkuntz01]

Do they work is different from are they needed.

Not sure what you meant to say there.

At the beginning of the video he states carbon buildup is negligible on a non gdi engine like the 3.6L engine. Anyone know if the 2.0 turbo is direct injected?

As they state in the video, catch cans will provide a great benefit to engines that utilize direct injection by reducing/preventing carbon build up in the heads and on valves. That’s not to day though that a catch can will not benefit a non-direct injected engine like the Pentastar, it just does so in different ways like reducing/preventing the amount of crap that would normally be passed into the engine and burned up in the combustion chamber from getting there. That helps the engine burn cleaner and operate more efficiently by not allowing the oil vapor from the PCV to mix with the fuel and reducing the effectiveness of it (reduced octane value).

 

[BrntWS6]

Decided to check after only 3 weeks from putting it on. Jeep isn't my DD so i probably have about 300 miles on it since installation at most. Next time i will pull the hose to check blow-by.

 

[LincolnSixAlpha]

I thought I'd follow this up with a brief experience with my previous car, 2015 BMW 435xi. With this vehicle, I installed a BMS Stage 1 upgrade, which in turn allows more boost from the turbo and thus more power. One of the weak spots in that car is the charge pipe that comes off of the intercooler in the front and leads to the throttle body. This pipe, as well as most of the other pipes, are plastic. Due to the larger boost coming from the turbo, the pipe can fatigue at the throttle body fitting and split, and throw codes, of course.

So to prevent this, I purchased an aftermarket aluminum formed charge pipe to replace the plastic charge pipe. Aside from the fact that this was a 4-hour process involving three people and a lift, I was simply AMAZED at how much oil came out of the recesses of the air-to-air intercooler and associated pipes at the lowest point of this system as they had to come out to allow for the installation of the new charge pipe. That's you PVC system at work folks, bleeding off crankcase vapors back into your intake system since we don't dump it out into the void anymore. If you think about this oil, not only is it coating the pipes, but the throttle body plate, along with the intake plenum, and finally the valves get coated with this crap. Compound that by many thousands of miles. For what it's worth my car only had about 25K on it when I swapped out the charge.

Anyhow FWIW.

 

[From0toJ]

I'll be honest - I didn't even think about putting a CC on my stock JL. I have blown 5.0 Mustang with 700 hp that I have a CC on... that's a must. I didn't think it was necessary in the current JL application for me. Looks like I might have to rethink that logic.

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