More importantly, Toyota is upgrading to new technology: drum brakes!BREAKING. I have obtained this exclusive first look at the real 2025 4Runner. This is the picture Toyota didn’t want you to see. Let me know what you think in the comments!
Shit, I'd pay 60k for an actual 79 series. I'm talking diesel, manual everything, rough and tumble interior, made to get banged up, can survive the apocalypse!
If they put in that disaster-of-a-V6 that they're currently dealing with in the Tundra then you can cross the "dependable" bullet point off the "boring but dependable" attributes list for the 4Runner. Toyota is going to have a real problem if this is how their powertrains are going to be in the hybrid/EV era. They live and die by their reputation because they simply can't seem to build an exciting vehicle.
Simply stated, the Toyota 4Runner and Sequoia are outdated, low-powered vehicles that have a core base of followers. With that said Toyota has not spent any $$$ on R&D and this is why they are expensive 90's vehicles being re-branded as newly 2024s.
There is a new Sequoia...I actually saw one in the wild last week. It's pretty promising but it shares the Tundra's nightmare powertrain. The Sequoia's story is a bit unique because it was brought back from the dead - it had actually been cancelled back in, I believe, 2014...but they had made the decision at almost the exact moment that gas prices in the US crashed hard. Full-size SUV sales took off and Toyota didn't want to be without an offering in what looked likely to become one of the most important segments in the automotive world. So they extended its life on a yearly basis until they realized that SUV demand wasn't a bubble. By the time the decision was made to create another generation, the existing one was already way past its expiration date. So that's why the last gen was around for so ridiculously long.
Again, outdated & underpowered!
440hp is more than sufficient power. I'd be interested to know what else you think is outdated about the new Sequoia.
HP is only good if geared correctly both at the transmission and axels. That said, I don't believe the truck was geared correctly as Toyota engineers were more concerned with fuel consumption/efficiency than the perspective of the day-to-day American driver. It's like putting your car in eco mode full-time.
That photo is not the vehicle. It's some Motortrend design image.
Same with my new Silverado. It has the upgraded Rancho Mono-tubes, UCAs and the 2" factory lift. It is MUCH easier to drive than the JL, but I wouldn't say it rides any better.
Yes...as always we need to stop evaluating every single "off-road" vehicle on earth through the lens of rock crawling. For almost every vehicle besides the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, "off-road" means packed dirt roads and the occasional rainstorm-created drainage rut. None of these vehicles are Wrangler competitors and really, who would want them to be? We don't need more rock crawlers.
