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Any guesses as to payload and towing capacity?
My best guess would put it somewhere around 4000 combined. 500-1000 in the bed, 2500-3500 towing with up to 500 trailer tongue weight. At least that's what I'm hoping for because hey wouldn't it be cool to pull a trailer with your modded Wrangler on it to the trails with your Wrangler truck ?
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At least that's what I'm hoping for because hey wouldn't it be cool to pull a trailer with your modded Wrangler on it to the trails with your Wrangler truck ?
Might be tough though? JKU's towing capacity is 3500 lbs. JKU Sahara weighs about 4400 lbs. So towing capacity has to go up by almost 1000 lbs.

Hope they do it though... I'm just imagining a JT in front and JK in back. :involve:

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Got the idea wheels turning did it?


Might be tough though? JKU's towing capacity is 3500 lbs. JKU Sahara weighs about 4400 lbs. So towing capacity has to go up by almost 1000 lbs.

Hope they do it though... I'm just imagining a JT in front and JK in back. :involve:

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Might be tough though? JKU's towing capacity is 3500 lbs. JKU Sahara weighs about 4400 lbs. So towing capacity has to go up by almost 1000 lbs.

Hope they do it though... I'm just imagining a JT in front and JK in back. :involve:

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Keep in mind towing capacities in US are always understated for liability reasons and to make FCA lawyers sleep better at night.

The JKU towing capacity is listed as 3500 lbs in US but guess what it is in Australia? 4400 lbs! And it's the same car made in the same plant in Toledo.

So real world towing capacity will be much higher than what's actually published for the US JT pickup.
 

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My best guess would put it somewhere around 4000 combined. 500-1000 in the bed, 2500-3500 towing with up to 500 trailer tongue weight. At least that's what I'm hoping for because hey wouldn't it be cool to pull a trailer with your modded Wrangler on it to the trails with your Wrangler truck ?
This number needs to go up significantly if the JT is going to compete with other trucks. 4,000lbs is depressingly pathetic.
 

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2017 Toyota Tacoma Towing Capacity: 3,500 lbs
2017 Chevy Colorado Towing Capacity: 3,500 - 7,000 lbs
2017 Honda Ridgeliine Towing Capacity: 3,500 - 5,000 lbs

My guess is it will be on par with those, the diesel will get similar to the diesel in the Colorado around 7,000 lbs and the base V6 around 3,500 lbs. The Grand Cherokee with the Eco Diesel is at 7,500lbs
 

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The Tacoma can pull up to 6,400lbs if it gets the tow package. And seeing as how virtually all V6 mid-size trucks average a towing capacity of 6-7k, the JT should at least match the competition.
 

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The Tacoma can pull up to 6,400lbs if it gets the tow package. And seeing as how virtually all V6 mid-size trucks average a towing capacity of 6-7k, the JT should at least match the competition.
Impressive # for a midsize pickup. WHat's in the towing package that almost doubles the Tacoma's towing capacity?
 

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The 3,500 lb capacity for the 2017 Tacoma is for the 4 cylinder option. The V6 with Toyota's "Tow Package" looks to be between 6,400-6,800 lbs. All this info was taken from the 2017 Tacoma brochure
 

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The 3,500 lb capacity for the 2017 Tacoma is for the 4 cylinder option. The V6 with Toyota's "Tow Package" looks to be between 6,400-6,800 lbs. All this info was taken from the 2017 Tacoma brochure
So "tow package" includes different engine. Same transmission?
 

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6,800 lbs with the V6 is impressive. I bet it wouldn't be fun to tow 6,800 lbs with the V6 though. That motor isnt much better then the wrangler's 6
 

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The 3,500 lb capacity for the 2017 Tacoma is for the 4 cylinder option. The V6 with Toyota's "Tow Package" looks to be between 6,400-6,800 lbs. All this info was taken from the 2017 Tacoma brochure
6,800 lbs with the V6 is impressive. I bet it wouldn't be fun to tow 6,800 lbs with the V6 though. That motor isnt much better then the wrangler's 6
I'm surprised that 278hp / 265 lb-ft can tow 6800 lbs. But gives me hope that the Jeep JT can achieve 6000+ lbs tow capacity too.
 

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I'm surprised that 278hp / 265 lb-ft can tow 6800 lbs. But gives me hope that the Jeep JT can achieve 6000+ lbs tow capacity too.
The XJ was rated for 5,000lbs towing and it was only putting out 190hp / 235 lb-ft with the 4.0L I6. The Pentastar puts out 285hp / 260 lb-ft. With a full frame, heavier duty axles and powertrain, plus longer wheelbase and bigger brakes, it still baffles me as to why the JKU is only rated at 3500 lbs towing (or even 4400lbs in AUS). A Grand Cherokee with the same engine (and the 8sp transmission) can tow up to 6200 lbs.

Given that the Tacoma will be the JT's primary competition I'd be really surprised if Jeep doesn't at least come spitting distance of the Taco's towing and payload capacity.
 

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The XJ was rated for 5,000lbs towing and it was only putting out 190hp / 235 lb-ft with the 4.0L I6. The Pentastar puts out 285hp / 260 lb-ft. With a full frame, heavier duty axles and powertrain, plus longer wheelbase and bigger brakes, it still baffles me as to why the JKU is only rated at 3500 lbs towing (or even 4400lbs in AUS). A Grand Cherokee with the same engine (and the 8sp transmission) can tow up to 6200 lbs.
The Export Wranglers with tow package come with the Big Brake kits, so that's one aspect regarding the AUS vs USA.
However as I mentioned in the diesel/transmission thread, it's not the power of the Engine that's the limiting factor. When asked if the AEV Hemi conversion would improve towing, they replied that it was still limited by other components.

As I mentioned in the other thread the Pentastar in the RAM 1500 can tow much more, 7,650 lbs (quad/8spd/4x2) giving back 200lbs for 4x4, and that's using the 3.55 axle ratio, not even the 3.92 that the EcoDiesel can be equipped with. With the same configuartion with the 3.55 axle the EcoDiesel is rated for 8050lbs, only 400 lbs more than the Pentastar. Who knows what the Pentastar could do on the same 3.92 axle/setup of the EcoDiesel.

So it's definitely more than just the engine holding things back.
 

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The Export Wranglers with tow package come with the Big Brake kits, so that's one aspect regarding the AUS vs USA.
However as I mentioned in the diesel/transmission thread, it's not the power of the Engine that's the limiting factor. When asked if the AEV Hemi conversion would improve towing, they replied that it was still limited by other components.

As I mentioned in the other thread the Pentastar in the RAM 1500 can tow much more, 7,650 lbs (quad/8spd/4x2) giving back 200lbs for 4x4, and that's using the 3.55 axle ratio, not even the 3.92 that the EcoDiesel can be equipped with. With the same configuartion with the 3.55 axle the EcoDiesel is rated for 8050lbs, only 400 lbs more than the Pentastar. Who knows what the Pentastar could do on the same 3.92 axle/setup of the EcoDiesel.

So it's definitely more than just the engine holding things back.
So sounds like it's the axle ratio that's makes the biggest difference in tow capacity and the reason the JK tow capacity is so low because of its high 3.21 axle ratio?

Any idea how much more higher tow capacity the JK would have if it used the Ram's 3.55 or the even higher 3.73 that JK owners often upgrade to?
 
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