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I'm surprised they let you test drive there. It's also a good test to assess the salesman. Did they try to BS their way out if it or did they readily admit you might want to get aftermarket mudflaps?

So you don't learn the hard way, get removable mudflaps. When in very rough terrain it is possible to get a mudflap wedged between a rock & the rock rails moving forward and between the ground and the tire in reverse. If either happen the mudflap will get ripped right off no matter how durable it is. Of course, that's when you want the functionality of a mud flap the most so it ends up being a judgement call at all times.
Or get decent rock sliders. Many of us don't exactly appreciate the looks of mud flaps.





 

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Or get decent rock sliders. Many of us don't exactly appreciate the looks of mud flaps.
Unfortunately in Utah that's not legal if your suspension is modified from OEM. That's what got Rockblokz started. Filled a legally required need.
 

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Unfortunately in Utah that's not legal if your suspension is modified from OEM. That's what got Rockblokz started. Filled a legally required need.
If the suspension is modified from OEM you have to have mudflaps??? That seems arbitrary.
 

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If the suspension is modified from OEM you have to have mudflaps??? That seems arbitrary.
I think it's a cash grab by the state to stop anyone they deem has modified their vehicle. Total bullshit to me. One of the reasons we left NYC 23 years ago. That and the fact that NY was a "May issue" state.
 

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If the suspension is modified from OEM you have to have mudflaps??? That seems arbitrary.
It is what it is. Some say it's a cash grab, others say it's to prevent rocks being thrown at other vehicles. FWIW, Utah is a place than can have rather extreme off road vehicles that are incompatible with other vehicles in a road or highway speed collision. I think it's a valid point. Annoying, but valid.

Basically for all UT registered vehicles with a non OEM frame height operating on UT roads, fenders must cover the wheel tread (no tread poke) and rear mudflaps are required that cover the full tread width at least down to the center of the axle. Stubby bumpers are also illegal on UT roads & highways. The frame cannot be lifted to more than 24" for a JL and 26" for a JLU. I'm not sure what that equates to as far as a max lift & tires.

That's why you see a lot of off-road Jeeps being trailered to the trailhead in UT. The laws only apply to on-road use, not on-road transport or off-road public land use.

As much as I don't like it, I have to admit that a Jeep with a 6" lift and 40s is not a good thing to have zooming down the highway at 80 MPH (the legal speed limit). That will make for a bad accident.
 

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It is what it is. Some say it's a cash grab, others say it's to prevent rocks being thrown at other vehicles. FWIW, Utah is a place than can have rather extreme off road vehicles that are incompatible with other vehicles in a road or highway speed collision. I think it's a valid point. Annoying, but valid.

Basically for all UT registered vehicles with a non OEM frame height operating on UT roads, fenders must cover the wheel tread (no tread poke) and rear mudflaps are required that cover the full tread width at least down to the center of the axle. Stubby bumpers are also illegal on UT roads & highways. The frame cannot be lifted to more than 24" for a JL and 26" for a JLU. I'm not sure what that equates to as far as a max lift & tires.

That's why you see a lot of off-road Jeeps being trailered to the trailhead in UT. The laws only apply to on-road use, not on-road transport or off-road public land use.

As much as I don't like it, I have to admit that a Jeep with a 6" lift and 40s is not a good thing to have zooming down the highway at 80 MPH (the legal speed limit). That will make for a bad accident.
Stubby bumpers are illegal? I ordered mine (indirectly) through the factory like that, supposedly 50-state legal. I guess not.
 

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Stubby bumpers are illegal? I ordered mine (indirectly) through the factory like that, supposedly 50-state legal. I guess not.
Thanks to UT they're only 50-state legal if you don't remove the steel bumper extensions. Or at least wait until the trailhead to take them off and put them back on before you drive home.

Joy.
 

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Thanks to UT they're only 50-state legal if you don't remove the steel bumper extensions. Or at least wait until the trailhead to take them off and put them back on before you drive home.

Joy.
I have AEV stubbies. The whole thing was orchestrated through Jeep. Directly from the factory in Toledo to the AEV shop in Michigan.
 
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Unfortunately in Utah that's not legal if your suspension is modified from OEM. That's what got Rockblokz started. Filled a legally required need.
I installed a front set of RokBlokz flaps and they seem to be working great so far!

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Thanks to UT they're only 50-state legal if you don't remove the steel bumper extensions. Or at least wait until the trailhead to take them off and put them back on before you drive home.

Joy.
I looked up the Utah law and mine definitely don't extend to the center of the tire treads. I'll risk an infraction whenever I drive in Utah.
 

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I looked up the Utah law and mine definitely don't extend to the center of the tire treads. I'll risk an infraction whenever I drive in Utah.
Would a vehicle with an out of state license plate be at risk of such an infraction? The Utah Code that you link to makes no distinction.

Vehicles with, for example, Florida plates and tinting that exceeds PA's strict standards on the matter are generally safe from the related citation (whereas I wouldn't be) when driving through the Keystone State.
 

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When I lived in California I drove my 2011 Power Wagon to Utah and got pulled over for tires sticking out too far . I didn't get a ticket but was told to get it fixed before I came up to Utah again. He told me the laws are for all vehicles from all states. I decided to not spend the money on fender flares and risk the ticket if I got pulled over again.
 

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Guess I missed this thread over the summer. I couldn't choose just 5, but here's my running list of mods/accessories (some major, most minor).

That’s a cool add, but I’m running a spydershade under the Freedom panels. It’s awesome on those intense sunny days!

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I ended up running my sun shade over the top of the overhead molle panel and so far I have no issues.
 
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