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Ok, so I'm tired of people - including some who live here - bashing California.

Sure we have high taxes and are moving further and further toward the liberal end of the political pool. But California is also a beautiful, vibrant state where you can truly visit the beach, mountains, and desert ALL IN ONE WEEKEND!

Some of the shade thrown at California is envy, and I get it. California is the No. 1 tourist destination in the nation, so clearly people want to visit here. Don't know how to reconcile that with all the nasty comments about my state. And for many of you, California contributes its excess federal tax dollars to running your state - so thank us for that.

Yes, San Francisco (especially) has a homeless problem. We also don't round up the homeless and bulldoze them into a mass grave so we do the best we can. Every state has problems - ask the midwest about heroin.

Not everyone can afford to live here - tough shit. The reason it's expensive is because it's awesome and a lot of people want to live here. Despite the snide comments about "Socialist Kalifornia", cost-of-living is defined primarily by supply-and-demand of real estate. California is the fifth largest economy on Earth, behind Germany and ahead of the UK. The engine of high tech is California, and the home of Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon, and Tesla.

California is on the front-end of EVOLUTION. Accepting people as they are, and isn't that what 'Murican Freedom is all about?

So love your state, but stop bashing mine.

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Ok, so I'm tired of people - including some who live here - bashing California.

Sure we have high taxes and are moving further and further toward the liberal end of the political pool. But California is also a beautiful, vibrant state where you can truly visit the beach, mountains, and desert ALL IN ONE WEEKEND!

Some of the shade thrown at California is envy, and I get it. California is the No. 1 tourist destination in the nation, so clearly people want to visit here. Don't know how to reconcile that with all the nasty comments about my state. And for many of you, California contributes its excess federal tax dollars to running your state - so thank us for that.

Yes, San Francisco (especially) has a homeless problem. We also don't round up the homeless and bulldoze them into a mass grave so we do the best we can. Every state has problems - ask the midwest about heroin.

Not everyone can afford to live here - tough shit. The reason it's expensive is because it's awesome and a lot of people want to live here. Despite the snide comments about "Socialist Kalifornia", cost-of-living is defined primarily by supply-and-demand of real estate. California is the fifth largest economy on Earth, behind Germany and ahead of the UK. The engine of high tech is California, and the home of Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon, and Tesla.

California is on the front-end of EVOLUTION. Accepting people as they are, and isn't that what 'Murican Freedom is all about?

So love your state, but stop bashing mine.

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I live here in the Golden State as well and you are right the weather, different regions for doing anything you want, and great economy is wonderful.. The part that is hard to understand is Universal healthcare and all the failing social programs. It is not socialist yet but the below poverty to ultra wealthy disparity makes for a big target. I can see why other states see the socialistic tendencies of California as a negative as that is what the News Media puts out daily. It sometimes feels like we have no border so you get immigration negatives. The Gun laws here are outrageous and it goes on from there. We also just got tagged with homeless voter fraud in LA so that doesn't help but that is a US wide problem and no state will ever audit the voting system. Fraud is rampant which contributes to the negatives of all our states.

That being said it is hard to not envy California for Weather and Natural Beauty - we all make concessions and if Cali's are too much then you migrate elsewhere but an hour from Desert to Mountain to Beach is pretty hard to beat

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We disagree on some politics, but that's fine. I think universal healthcare -- Medicare for All - is the inevitable progress our system will need to make so that we deal with healthcare effectively as all other major industrialized nations do. I can provide reams of data showing that universal is superior, those who disagree can only provide anecdotal fear words.

Until we can read minds we must control guns. It is not a coincidence that California is #43 out of #50 for least gun deaths - and it is in part because of our strict gun laws. It is inarguable - again with data - that states with stricter control (especially states which are not adjacent to easy-gun states) have fewer deaths.

Living here you know as well as I do that immigrants - legal and illegal - are an integral part of our communities and our economy here. I would prefer a better system for allowing immigrants to enter and work legally and, if we were the least bit serious about controlling illegal immigration we would prosecute EMPLOYERS of illegal workers. But we don't. So it's bullshit.

Bottom line though is that people on this site seem to never miss an opportunity to look side-eye at our state, and it's rude.
 

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I lived in California for 10 years. The weather in San Diego was usually great. The beaches were spectacular and the mountains had commanding views. I do miss living there and I wish I had a gotten a Jeep while I was there.

That being said, I had to evacuate for major wildfires 3 times while I was there, and there were plenty of other fires too. I also had to deal with people that were just plain racist... Honestly I had never gotten negative comments for my mixed race relationships here in NC but damn if some of those douchebags from LA think calling me a N***** Lover was funny.... Rant over... Sorry

Pros and Cons for living there.
 
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I'm sorry you experienced that. I live by the ocean so little fire risk, and I'm a gay guy and have never experienced any negativity here for that. For sure it depends on where one circulates..
 

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I'm sorry you experienced that. I live by the ocean so little fire risk, and I'm a gay guy and have never experienced any negativity here for that. For sure it depends on where one circulates..
I lived less than a mile away from the ocean, and it burned just as fast there as anywhere else. Ash was falling like snow in Oceanside.

Didn't want to come across as harsh but until that point I had never heard anyone voice an opposition to my then girlfriend to my face like that before.

I do miss living there though.
 
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I lived less than a mile away from the ocean, and it burned just as fast there as anywhere else. Ash was falling like snow in Oceanside.

Didn't want to come across as harsh but until that point I had never heard anyone voice an opposition to my then girlfriend to my face like that before.

I do miss living there though.
There are assholes everywhere.

We have little wilderness to burn here at the ocean in Newport Beach.

Now earthquakes....
 

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There are assholes everywhere.

We have little wilderness to burn here at the ocean in Newport Beach.

Now earthquakes....
Ah Newport Beach, yeah not much to burn there and I didn't meet any assholes there either. Now that I think of it I should have spent more time there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2876875,-117.4394186,2305m/data=!3m1!1e3

This is where I was living at that point in time I really needed to evacuate... lots of foliage there to catch fire, so I got out of there (With anyone that needed a ride) and stayed in Oceanside for a few days. and then it happened again the next year...

Earthquakes I didn't notice that much. Occasionally I felt when it happened but my Wife remembers a few bad ones from when she was a kid.
 
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Ah Newport Beach, yeah not much to burn there and I didn't meet any assholes there either. Now that I think of it I should have spent more time there.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.2876875,-117.4394186,2305m/data=!3m1!1e3

This is where I was living at that point in time I really needed to evacuate... lots of foliage there to catch fire, so I got out of there (With anyone that needed a ride) and stayed in Oceanside for a few days. and then it happened again the next year...

Earthquakes I didn't notice that much. Occasionally I felt when it happened but my Wife remembers a few bad ones from when she was a kid.
Dude that base is one of the biggest undeveloped hunks of land in the state!
 

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Dude that base is one of the biggest undeveloped hunks of land in the state!
It is, Would have been great to have owned a Jeep there, but I got a Dakota that I just kept around for a long time, lol.
 

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Being a California native.... I hate the state of the State. It is a beautiful State. It generally has great weather. Top to bottom, side to side, it is very diverse environmentally.

The political mindset and overreaching belief that their way should be the National way is a problem.

If they are so economically sound, why are they broke as a State?

The death by firearms comment has been proven false way too many times. States with less strict gun laws have lower violent crimes. The FBI has proven that year after year after year.

Bottom line, for me, I refuse to live in a State that so very openly caters to those who do not want to work by taking from those who do because they want better. Current example is the discussion to impose a texting tax in order to ensure those without a cell phone can have one. The way the law is written (which is not yet approved) the tax can be imposed in rears up to 5 years (making a very large initial tax bill by all with an active cell plan).

The people there are hit and miss wherever you go. You could meet the nicest person only to follow up with the worst 5 minutes later. Most other States are consistent at least... either good or rotten for the majority.
 

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Yes I'm sure. The site you linked, useful as it may be, provides a snapshot of the state's current position. You and I wouldn't want to be in California's position BUT there is an extremely vibrant economy here so there is also no impending doom.

This report is rosier than the one previously cited.

https://www.ppic.org/wp-content/uploads/r-118sbr.pdf
 
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