snow rating is subjective, measured ratings provide real information. Subjective rating scales is why Netflix gave up on ratings and went thumbs up or thumbs down, if everyone's idea of what an 8 means vs a 10 the rating value is meaningless.As for 3 peak ratings. I'm not sure what you mean. Are talking about the "mountain and snowflake" icon indicating a severe snow rating beyond the M+S rating? If so, I could add it to the tire description, but the "snow" rating should reflect how good it is in those conditions anyway.
PM, and ChattVol your ratings are added.
the point was some non subjective ratings help put it into perspective, the subjective ones value we understandNetflix is rating a movie/show. "I like it" or "I didn't like it" is sufficient. If you pick a movie/show that doesn't meet expectations you're not out anything.
A subjective list may not be for everyone. That's fine, but for those who are interested, it's here for them. As you mentioned, not everyone will have the same opinion on what an 8 is. However an 8 rating shows that the person thinks the tire is pretty good, but it could be better (it's not a 10). Likewise not everyone will have the same opinion on each rating for each tire. Someone may rate a tire at 10 in a category where another user my think it doesn't deserve such a high mark (the "noise" rating you previously disputed on the Nitto for example). That's fine. If both people (or hopefully more) rate the tire, we end up with a representation of what the average user thinks of that tire. There will be extremes in everything, and that's why averages work best with larger sample sizes. That's also why I added the column for the number of reviews. That way we know how many people contributed to it's average rating.
Heres my take on the 35" Nitto Ridge Grapplers, steel wheels, JLURView attachment 147772
On my quest for tires I've come across multiple threads that become tire debates. There are a lot thread but not a lot of ways to compare one to another. I hope this thread/chart will serve as an easy reference tool to help people compare tires without having to read a thread for every tire they want to look at. It may also help them find a tire they didn't realize they might be interested int. To do this, I need your help.
I made the above chart based on actual user experience. I also added ratings from vendor/manufacturer on common tires discussed (some aren't rated yet). I will also add tires if some reviews one that isn't on the list.
To contribute to the chart simply post what tire you want to rate, along with your ratings in the same order as the chart (Tire, Noise, Ride, Dry, Wet, Snow, Trail, Look, Overall). If you haven't driven in a condition, such as snow for you southerners, simply put a "0" or "x" for that rating.
For example someone from Florida wants to rate the Duratrac but they've never had them in the snow. They could post "Duratrac 9, 9, 10, 9, x, 8, 7, 9" and I'll add their rating in.
To clarify my categories. 1 is the worst 10 is the best.
Noise = I'm talking about road noise. How loud are they when you're driving?
Ride = How do they feel? Shhhh don't tell, but Jeeps drive on the road too, not just the trail. How does this tire feel on the road?
Dry = Do they corner well, do the stop well, do they spin easily when you accelerate?
Wet = This is the same question as dry, but when the ground is wet.
Snow = This lumps light snow, deep snow, slush and ice together. How does the tire handle in winter conditions.
Trail = This lumps all off-road use together. Rocks, dirt, sand, mud, etc. I know some tires are specific to different off-road conditions, but this chart is simplified. Just give it an overall trail rating on your experience.
Look = How do you like the look of the tire/tread? Are they aggressive enough looking, are they boring?
Overall = You're overall take on the tire. It doesn't have to be an average of your ratings. You may love the tire, despite it falling short in some categories.
That's it. Post up your ratings, and I'll continue to update the chart. Obviously we can have discussion about various tires throughout the thread too. Hopefully this goes as planned, and it will become a great tool.
I live right between Chicago and Wisconsin. We get a lot of snow, ice, mix, you name it. I can honestly say these are the worst tires I've ever had in winter.Snow = 7 (curious the other persons experience in snow. As a native NEO resident, snow is not a problem in general.. during our last big freak snow storm - which happened on my birthday! - I made it a point to drive around. No issues... take your time, use 4x4 is conditions permit.. that said, these are not M+S rated or whatever and due to tread pattern, may not be great in all types of snow)
Very interesting! I’m confident in the rating I gave and there performance in snow (and that it’s okay... 7). I’m 100% certain there’s better performing tires in snow. Your mention of using 4WD to get out of a parking spot is interesting because in our last freak snow storm, I was I parked on the street and got plowed in. I did need 4WD to get out. That - in my opinion - was not a bad thing but other people may perceive that differently.I live right between Chicago and Wisconsin. We get a lot of snow, ice, mix, you name it. I can honestly say these are the worst tires I've ever had in winter.
On days where there was snow or ice, the JKU couldn't even make it out of a parking space unless in 4wd. Even in 4wd, it was a crawl to get around. Equally as bad as a rear wheel drive pick-up truck I had previously. Starting and stopping were both poor.
On other JKUs I owned, with multiple different tires, I could easily get around in 2wd in the same conditions.