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I’ve had Jeeps for years (and before them IH Scouts). I have become ever more disenchanted as Jeeps have grown larger and more complex, while becoming more difficult to DIY repair. Medicore build quality, poor ride, and laughable “service” at dealerships combined with ludicrous pricing have taken the shine off the Apple. Buddy got a new Land Cruiser and frankly it’s nicer than anything Jeephas ever thrown together. I’m not into extreme rock crawling which is perhaps the only area Jeep will outperform the LC. It’s quieter, rides a Lot better, is much better built and has an actual dealer network that services them. Dunno if I’ll jump just yet or not but if I trade the JL off, I’m 99% sure it’ll NOT be for another Jeep
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This isn't an airport, you don't have to announce your departure.

Either you're a "jeep person" or you ain't and it sounds like you aren't. Maybe you once were but since you mention things like "poor ride"... Lets be honest here you knew what you were getting into with the Wrangler, you should understand why they don't ride the same by now. You should understand that the LC rides nicer because Toyota wanted it to and made sacrifices in other areas in order to make it happen.

I'm not even going to address your other issues as once again...you knew what a Jeep was when you bought in to it and nothing prevented you from buying a Land Cruiser back then instead of the Jeep.

Good luck with your Toyota and I hope you're happy with it. Personally I think they make boring cars for boring people and would never own one. Life is too short to drive a boring car but some people find comfort in boring and that's why Toyota is successful.
 

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This isn't an airport, you don't have to announce your departure.

Either you're a "jeep person" or you ain't and it sounds like you aren't. Maybe you once were but since you mention things like "poor ride"... Lets be honest here you knew what you were getting into with the Wrangler, you should understand why they don't ride the same by now. You should understand that the LC rides nicer because Toyota wanted it to and made sacrifices in other areas in order to make it happen.

I'm not even going to address your other issues as once again...you knew what a Jeep was when you bought in to it and nothing prevented you from buying a Land Cruiser back then instead of the Jeep.

Good luck with your Toyota and I hope you're happy with it. Personally I think they make boring cars for boring people and would never own one. Life is too short to drive a boring car but some people find comfort in boring and that's why Toyota is successful.
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My brother has had a new LC for about a month.
I’ve driven it multiple times.
It’s boring with a capital B!!
Nothing more than 4Runner dressed up. .
No doors or top coming off.
Some great philosopher once said “ life is too short to drive boring cars”.
I couldn’t agree more.
 

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Toyotas as well as Jeeps have grown larger and more complex. If the Landcruiser is right for you, then it’s right for you. Don’t let members of the Jeep Cult tell you otherwise.
 

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Toyotas as well as Jeeps have grown larger and more complex. If the Landcruiser is right for you, then it’s right for you. Don’t let members of the Jeep Cult tell you otherwise.
I smell heresy
 

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Toyotas as well as Jeeps have grown larger and more complex. If the Landcruiser is right for you, then it’s right for you. Don’t let members of the Jeep Cult tell you otherwise.
With our current economy being in the toilet, those that have enough money to purchase a new vehicle, should purchase what ever they want, without any outside influence. Just take your time, and then look and drive the options available to you. Be thankful, that you have the financial capability to do this. Then make your choice on what makes you happy. Remember, it is yours to own.
 

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Well , if 35 years and 300,000 miles don’t make me a “Jeep person” I doubt there are many out there😏. Stellantis (and Fiat) have milked the old cow dry, sent the prices through the roof while sacrificing build quality. My JL has had more niggling problems than my old TJ’s Ever had. I would buy a new TJ today. A new JL? Don’t think so. Dunno about an LC but I was impressed with my friends. Maybe if I drive my JL for another 5 years and have 40 years behind a Jeep wheel I’ll be a “Jeep person”🙄
 

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kidding aside- I wouldn’t get a LC now for the same reason I wouldn’t get any electrified vehicle now. Toyota has announced SS batteries coming Soon, with limited production before full production. The LC is a high level model that likely will be one of the first. I will be considering one as a replacement for my 15 GC at that time.

my 21 Wrangler replaced an 05 4R that was reliably Meh for 16 years, 210K mi. Beautiful Meh, the most reliable Meh there’s ever been, Meh So Meh.
 

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This is not just to the OP but to others as well. Just enjoy what you have and live in the moment. JL is not perfect but it is a decent product and it is quite livable in its current state. The new prices only come into play if you are looking to replace your current wheels. Otherwise, the prices are irrelevant.
 

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If you do end up selling your Jeep just don't do an Aldo and come back a couple months later with another one.

We had to sit through years of his complaining about everything-Jeep, made a departing thread about how he finally had enough with Jeep and couldn't take it anymore, only to come back with another one before his post had even aged out of the 1st page of the forum.
 
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My JL has had more niggling problems than my old TJ’s Ever had.
I'll bet your cellphone has more updates, more glitches, and more battery issues these days than your vinyl record player, 35mm film camera, and rotary dial phone had too. My guess also is that your JL has better safety features, better fuel efficiency, and better comfort options than your TJ had as well. If you want more roses you have to put up with the probability of more thorns. Why you feel inclined to make a forum post about leaving Jeep is a little odd. If you are thinking that by doing so Carlos Tavares is going to call you with an apology and a coupon to buy a RAV4, don't hold your breath.
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