It IS gutless below 3k rpm. Up and down mt's here in CO I have to wring it out from 4-5k to maintain speed. 8-10k ft altitude doesn't help but the manual trans does!
To be fair, the Tacoma isn't very good at trucky things either. It doesn't tow very well, it has a very weak engine/transmission combo, its payload is lower than that of Ridgeline by a long shot. (4 door to 4 door 4x4), yet it destroys everything in its class in sales year over year.Too much wheelbase, too much money, not enough truck
A 2 row SUV is only expected to haul five passengers and a little bit of gear. Maybe tow a small trailer. The Wrangler dominates in being able to accomplish it's goals anywhere better than anything this side of an M1 tank. Removable top and doors is icing on the cake
A truck is supposed to do much much more. The Gladiator doesn't excel at doing anything truck-y. It doesn't excel off-road in stock form like the ZR2 due to excessive wheelbase and relatively low horsepower. And to nail shut the coffin, they priced it like a Baja-ready superduty
Wrapped a little tight are we? Lots of options in the price range that offer far more flexibility in usage. Seen a few on the streets none on trails or towing in my area. Watched some commercials being shot in Southern Utah in some dirtHere we go again. I'm sorry you guys just can't handle something different. People aren't buying JT's to haul fucking 5th wheel campers and 20' trailers loaded down with side by sides or cattle. People are buying the JT for kayaks, bikes, small trailers, smaller campers and just because THEY FUCKING LIKE IT! What is it with people on this forum and hating things that 1. aren't a Rubicon 2. aren't what they think is cool.
Taco has the right proportions. Short bed, aggressive approach angle, capable looking flares and fenders. They made the most basic 2wd look off-road ready.To be fair, the Tacoma isn't very good at trucky things either. It doesn't tow very well, it has a very weak engine/transmission combo, its payload is lower than that of Ridgeline by a long shot. (4 door to 4 door 4x4), yet it destroys everything in its class in sales year over year.
This is exactly why I got the JT and why most people get Wranglers. They want the potential, not the reality. The vast majority of Jeep Wrangler owners here (and probably in other parts of the country) won't even upgrade tires, let alone put on larger ones, lifts, etc. They may BUY one pre-made like that from a dealership, but they won't ever use the equipment/upgrades. Same thing with the vast majority of truck buyers. So for the JT, it's people wanting into both worlds. The possibility of having use for the truck bed. The possibility of going out on a trail. Even if they will never actually do it.Again, the buying public may not put 37s on or go off road or take doors off or tops but they like the idea that you can. Same thing for people who buy sports cars. They aren't going to go 200mph or verify g-forces, they just know they have a vehicle that can do it. \
Until you try to put it on a forest service rd. Unless you like tree designed pin striping on new paint.So, I sell CDJR, Chevy, and GMC products. I can tell you the mid-size truck market is struggling in all brands. With the rebates and discounts on full-size trucks. You can buy a fullsize crew/cab truck for the same or less than a mid-size one. The little trucks very rarely have any rebate on them, and when they do it's not very much. Fullsize trucks are a way better deal.
I can’t believe I read all these posts,
First of all, I can tell none of you bashing the Gladiator owns one. If you did you wouldn’t be saying the things you are. The truck is awesome and will out perform any Truck that was mentioned in this thread.
Who doesn’t upgrade a Jeep? Jeep knows that, so they put small cheap ass tires on them.
You can spend $110 on a leveling kit and fit 37” tires on the JT.
I also own a JK and love it but the storage in the back is a joke, same for the JL.
Although some think the bed is to small but it is not a full size truck and fits a heck of allot more than the JK or JL. Put a shell on the JT and it’s like an extended JK or JL but much better with the rear suspension.
The longer wheel base On my JT makes for a better and more stable ride. I have gone on most all the trails in AZ and really don’t see much of a difference compared to my JK other than the JT has a better ride.
Both scrape on bigger rocks, that’s why they make skid plates, not to hit curbs at the mall.
The JT is a Jeep and some on here are Jeep haters and it is like saying your baby is ugly
True but far fewer people are buying it because what you pointed out is the jt has a very limited market and it won’t last because it won’t bring in enough revenue to have a second Redesigned modelHere we go again. I'm sorry you guys just can't handle something different. People aren't buying JT's to haul fucking 5th wheel campers and 20' trailers loaded down with side by sides or cattle. People are buying the JT for kayaks, bikes, small trailers, smaller campers and just because THEY FUCKING LIKE IT! What is it with people on this forum and hating things that 1. aren't a Rubicon 2. aren't what they think is cool.
I hear they are leaving the keys in them l as well so they can be as effective as the currently planned border wall... probably much cheaper than what’s proposed and just as effective...did I mention how effective a wall is in today’s modern times ... did you hear about the Great Wall keeping the Mongolians out???? Yeah me neitherI read somewhere, FCA has a backup plan for it's over inventory of 4 doors. They will have Uncle Sam buy all their unsold units. I can see their thought , all them long 4 doors, standing on end, side by side, what a beautiful border wall.
Money well spent IMHO