I agree only to an extent. I don't think we can say "with a lot less issues" at this point. Any first model year is going to have hiccups. What will be interesting to me is to see what kinds of issues the 2023s have. By then we should really know a lot.
Well I disagree on that. I can get a Wrangler for 4-6% below invoice. Broncos are significantly over sticker. So even if they are priced similarly, the price I would pay is very different.
I totally get that argument. It will be interesting to see how it all levels out once Broncos are no longer the hot new thing and supply chain issues ease up.
The 3.0L is just a bored and stroked version of the 2.7L that's having issues. Although, at some point the valve thing was supposed to have been addressed already.
Issue was only with certain 2021s, and was a bad batch of valves from a supplier. Issue has been resolved for new builds, but obviously there are Broncos driving out there with the defect that will continue to experience problems. They know the range of VINs affected.
I hope that it has been addressed, because it sure is getting a bad reputation.
Thanks for the update…
I'd agree that the head unit that you describe is under-specc'd. for the presumed sticker price of the Bronco that you test drove. That said, it seems in error to dismiss as "trash" a head unit that isn't really configured to serve an infotainment function. To allow a proper critique, it would first have to have the very features (navigation, mapping, etc.) that qualify it as such. Only then could it be fairly compared and contrasted against other units with the same or similar feature set.
Can you flesh that out? As typed, it suggests that a Ford dealer was punished by Dearborn for merely accepting an order for a customer-configured vehicle. That's one of the core responsibilities of an automotive dealership, one of their very raisons d'être.
Right? If I was looking for a Bronco-type vehicle (IFS, body on frame, transfer case etc), it’d definitely be a 4Runner. All the comfort/refinement, better quality, infinitely better reliability.
Hoo buddy, it's been a ride on that front. Initially, allocations were directly tied to reservations that were converted to orders. So, a handful of savvy, smaller dealers jumped onto the forums and offered deals on the new Bronco generally ranging from $1-2k under invoice to secure more reservations with their dealerships while the vast majority were at MSRP, at best, or ADM. And they got an insane number of reservations. Shortly, before production started there were rumblings that some of the larger dealership groups convinced Ford to change the allocation formula due to this. They didn't think it was fair to compete apparently. Even tho what they, the small dealers, had done was kosher with the rules in place at the time. It was basically confirmed by Ford's talking head on Twitter, Mike Levine, in a snarky tweet. There have been at least two more known tweaks to the allocation formula in the year and a half since. Each time, it's been slid to be more in favor of the massive, city based chains and away from those smaller dealers. It's to the point where the reservation system is basically pointless and broken. You can walk into a major chain, pay way more than MSRP for an order, and get your Bronco months and in some cases years before some of us will ever see our reserved one.
