The c&d #'s that I saw put the 3.0 the same as the Sahara 3.6 (the slowest 3.6) and behind the 2.0. Why it's coming up this time (from me) is I'm genuinely trying to understand the logic for wanting this powertrain. Separately, I've never seen a vehicle offer 3 different powertrains with such similar performance. It's odd.
One or more of four typical reasons: wheeling torque, fuel range for overland use, cost savings for those with regionally cheap diesel, and/or just liking the sound/driving characteristics of diesel. The first three are all amplified by 37”+ tires, towing, and elevation. If those issues are not part of your use-case, move on. If they are, break out your wallet and hope the engineers didn’t botch the R&D.
Not everybody that want's a diesel JL is doing it to save on gas.
1- Low end torque for off-road use.
The low rpm horsepower is attractive (torque means nothing without an RPM multiplier). How much more range does the diesel get with the smaller fuel tank? Interesting you tell me to move on when you are the one engaging me.
Move on 'cause if you don't like the diesel, just don't make dumb comments on diesel threads.
25% more range give or take...my 3.6 JLUR tank is good for 400 miles tops...3.0 JLUR is good for 520+. That % increase applies to whatever you’re carrying in spare tanks too, which is critical for some. Diesel is also a more stable/safe fuel to transport which is also of concern for those of us who carry many gallons of extra fuel around.
As stated before, Range.
This is not as much about convincing us that we are wrong for buying diesel as much as. reassuring yourself that you did it right when you bought gasser. I told you you should have waited few months and got a diesel. Now it will live in your head. Just give it up. You are just annoying everyone.
They test at high altitude, which is apples to oranges and not representative of what 90% of people would see.
It'll feel better with larger tires for sure. I don't think you'll save fuel. Higher MPG engines are more sensitive to change and lose a larger percentage of their MPG with a load against the engine. The EcoDiesel and the new baby Duramax in the Silverado 1500 lost 65% of their MPG while towing in TFL's testing. Sixty Five Percent. I've never in my life seen a gas engine lose 65% regardless of what I hook to it or which tires I put on it.
This is a load and elevation dependent phenomenon. How often are you comparing V6 gas to V6 diesel towing the same load with the same vehicle at elevation...or even at sea level? I can tell you from personal experience and that of many others that apples to apples, diesel loses less under load most of the time. Believe what you want, but low end torque moves loads and diesel has 15% more energy by volume to start with. FWIW, I’ll have a very direct 3.6 to 3.0 JLUR mpg comparison for you in short order...same roads, same loads.
