Tazer and Mopar Warranty

[Plongson]

...Probably been discussed before but...how does using a Tazer effect the Mopar warranty? I'd hate to void my warranty so early in this wonderful relationship...lol

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[Rhinebeck01]

...Probably been discussed before but...how does using a Tazer effect the Mopar warranty? I'd hate to void my warranty so early in this wonderful relationship...lol

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Sure having a Tazer JL installed on a JL, under warranty could cause you lets say issues with the dealership and with FCA. A JL owner that has done his/her homework can skate by without issues with dealer of FCA

Read here, all 80+ pages and you will educate yourself in regard the the Tazer JL programmer.

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/threads/tazer-programmer-for-the-jl.5405/

 

[OnlyOne]

Just un-marry it and remove before warranty work. It’s really easy.

 

[viper88]

I asked about mods and warranty before buying a JL. I was really asking about aux lighting, wheels, tires, lifts, accessories, not Tasers or programmers. 2 different dealers I spoke to said dealers have discretion about warranty. Depends on what's done. "Probably" no problems with racks, lights, bumpers, steps, rails. Maybe with larger wheels and tires, some suspension. Basically said it depends on what the problem is. Both said FCA does not like programmers like Taser and will void the warranty. I did not ask about programmers. They mentioned it on their own. Apparently programmers are one thing FCA frowns upon. At least thats what the dealers I spoke to said. YMMV.

 

[Plongson]

So here is another question, after it's married and all set as you like it...if you unmarry the Mini, do you have to complete your set-up all over again or does the Mini retain your setting when you Marry it again?

 

[aldo98229]

Only your dealer can answer your original question.

Only he has the super powers to determine if a Tazr is causing your driver seat to squeak or your steering to wander all over the road.

Jeep dealer about to check if your warranty is good or void

 

[Plongson]

Rhinebeck01...THANKS for the reply and great information! I have one on order and will only use a few of the features, but ones that are important to me...you cleared up many questions. Thanks again!

 

[Rhinebeck01]

So here is another question, after it's married and all set as you like it...if you unmarry the Mini, do you have to complete your set-up all over again or does the Mini retain your setting when you Marry it again?

@Plongson

The Tazer JL Lite or Mini, when you unmarry from your JL, remembers the settings you had..... BUT, Long time user's know that it is prudent to keep a piece of paper listing each setting you have so just in case the Tazer JL misses carrying back a setting that you have knowledge of that setting and you can easily redo the setting.

Can tell you that working with the Tazer JL, install, marrying, doing settings and then unmarrying on occasion are all very easy to do.. very easy at that.

Guys / gals that stumble on any of the aforementioned, probably have not bothered to read the instructions, read forum threads like I pointed to you earlier, or just did not ask here before proceeding lets say..

YES, installing the hardware can be a pain in the ass for some people..... Especially if you are a way big guy or gal, your vision is iffy, arthritis, etc.. For some it is best to have their teen Son or Daughter, Grandson or Granddaughter, their wife or someone else, do the unplugging and plugging, etc. that is part of the Tazer JL Lite/ Mini install. For sure have a good light down there when installing the hardware... 8-)

Tazer JL, Tazer JL Lite or Mini is a terrific programmer that really does the deed, IF, if you need it's abilities. IF you really don't need it, do pass it by, as it is a pain sometimes.. You have to unmarry and remove for dealer visits, etc..

For someone just wanting to deal with ESS, I say screw the Tazer JL. Go out an buy a SmartStopStart unit for way less $ and way way, less headaches..

In closing I was one of the first with the Tazer JL. I know it quite well. I have been through ups and downs with it. I have spent lots of time on the phone with Joe at ZAutomotive. The Tazer JL caused battery depletion that left me in a lurch , 400 miles from home and other issues...

Guess, my JL, was kind of a guinea pig of sorts Fortunately, the Tazer JL has come a long long way in the last year+.

Joe knows the in's and out's better then he did, firmware is much improved, and of course the Tazer JL has been around quite a while now, so lots of guys/gals know more about it..

Anyway, I no longer run a Tazer JL or Tazer JL Mini because I do not need it...... but been there, done that, got the T-Shirt..

 

[Troybilt]

As long as the Tazer did not or could not of caused the issue you have protections under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. This is nothing new and has many cases that have set president.

https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/sta...nty-federal-trade-commission-improvements-act

 

[Rhinebeck01]

@Plongson

IF you did not get the additional year warranty with your Tazer JL, do go to ZAutomotive's website and purchase the additional year warranty there for $20.

Tazer JL comes with a one year warranty.

 

[WranglerMan]

I’m in the same boat as @Rhinebeck01 as I ran the two piece Tazer for quite awhile Way back when it came out but did have a few issues like uconnect not shutting down or rebooting randomly and I got tired of pulling it everytime I went in for any service or recalls, early on I do believe the tazer caused a parasitic draw on the battery and I took the advice of @Rhinebeck01 and picked up a Deltran tender and still use it today but I gave up the Tazer along while back and just run the Smart Stop/Start module for ESS.

I do run 35’s so my speedo is off by 4-5 mph and my TPMS limits are to high but honestly those are the only things I used the tazer for in the end and now it’s not worth the investment in getting a new tazer for just those two things, maybe at some point Joe will release something for just tires and TPMS for those looking to just change those two things.

 

[Roky]

...Probably been discussed before but...how does using a Tazer effect the Mopar warranty? I'd hate to void my warranty so early in this wonderful relationship...lol

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OP.... sounds like these guys have your questions answered. I’m just chiming in as a long time very satisfied owner of the tazer mini. IMO , it’s awesome.

@Rhinebeck01 and @WranglerMan were very helpful and informative to me when I first got mine( thanks guys). Now, almost 2 years later, I sometimes forget it’s in there, lol. The small inconvenience of removing for dealer visits, is way worth it for me for what I use it for, besides, how often to you go to the dealer anyway.

Joe@zauto has also been great, super helpful with all my sometimes stupid questions, and very patient. He’s always reachable, and gets back to me quickly.

For me, personally, this is definitely one of my favorite mods to my rig still today , and there’s been a bunch of them over the past 2 years.........

 

[jeepoch]

Paul,

I have one [a Tazer JL Mini], I do in fact like it but I don't leave it connected. So therefore won't use any of it's 'Live' features. I only use it to set tire size, TPMS thresholds and the fog light drop out.

Unfortunately, the Tazer JL is one of the type of programmers that bypass the Security Gateway (SGW) Module. That's what you are in fact disconnecting when installing the Tazer.

If you have any flavor of the UConnect 4 Radio that provides remote internet connectivity, the bad guys now have a side channel for remote digital access to your rig and potentially it's internal engine, transmission and body controllers.

While many may argue that the risk of external intrusion is extremely low, it is practically zero when the SGW is installed and not bypassed. After all, that is the primary purpose of the SGW, to ensure that only valid (authorized) entities have access to these 'drive-by-wire' internal control communication networks.

On the bright side, as long as you don't advertise that you have a connected Tazer in your Jeep, the bad guys may never know. However, nefarious jerks may potentially probe your radio's cellular connection remotely looking for access to your Jeep's internal digital components (without your knowledge) whenever the SGW is bypassed.

Remember, programming products like the Tazer provide more (not less) digital access to these vital controllers. That is their business niche (and product genius) after all.

So it is up to each and every owner to ascertain exactly how much risk they are willing to invest in when using these type of products.

I do use it, and the Tazer JL is a pretty good mechanism to adjust things that the manufacturer doesn't naturally provide. But at a cost. One that I'm only partially willing to pay. No way I'm leaving it connected. I'd much rather run with the SGW.

For others, it may certainly well be worth this risk. That's a decision only you can make.

Do you run anti-malware (anti-virus) products on your Personal Computers at home or at work? The Security Gateway Module is essentially the very same thing in your Jeep.

Only when these third-party programmers can do what they advertise WITHOUT bypassing the SGW will I then consider it 'safe'. Obviously this would likely increase the cost of the programmer significantly because these programming products would then have to pay the vehicle manufacturer some licensing fee to also become a valid (authorized) entity. That is of course if the manufacture would ever entertain allowing that type of (now restricted) functionality to begin with. Unless these third party companies are willing to pay a large enough sum to have them change their mind, which is of course not likely, these products will continue to rely on bypassing the built in security.

For what it's worth.

Jay

 

[mwilk012]

It seems that most people worry more about the warranty than about enjoying themselves.

 

[OldGuyNewJeep]

After all, that is the primary purpose of the SGW, to ensure that only valid (authorized) entities have access to these 'drive-by-wire' internal control communication networks.

Hrmmm... I think the primary purpose is to generate revenue; locked system for which only FCA holds the key. With the SGW module active private mechanics can’t even pull codes. Eff that.

I love my Tazer. I’ve had it plugged in for 2 years. The two times I had to go in for recalls I unmarried, unplugged, and removed SGW bypass.

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